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Posted on 3/25/19 at 7:43 pm to BigEdLSU
Unless he can hit it won’t matter
Posted on 3/25/19 at 7:46 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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Alan Dunn is raping kids arms we have 8 pitchers hurt
Actually it’s travel ball dads and coaches ruining kids arms. Throwing too much as 10,11,12, 13 year olds. Kid throws 100+ pitches in a weekend and also plays catcher or SS after coming off the mound. Right back to practice on Tuesday
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:03 pm to geauxfortwo
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Actually it’s travel ball dads and coaches ruining kids arms. Throwing too much as 10,11,12, 13 year olds. Kid throws 100+ pitches in a weekend and also plays catcher or SS after coming off the mound. Right back to practice on Tuesday
I dont disagree with that exacerbating the situation, but Jaden Hill was not a travel ball kid. I know he was interviewed before his injury and said he had been taught to pitch the ball and throw it like a football.
I wonder what the deal is with a kid who is mesomorphic in build and well rested (compared to a travel baller) being plagued by arm soreness.
but it is concerning is it not?Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:19 pm to BigEdLSU
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but Jaden Hill was not a travel ball kid. I know he was interviewed before his injury and said he had been taught to pitch the ball and throw it like a football.
I wonder what the deal is with a kid who is mesomorphic in build and well rested (compared to a travel baller) being plagued by arm soreness.
but it is concerning is it not?
I have explained this to you no less than six times. If you don’t get it by now you wont
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:21 pm to BigEdLSU
I agree there are a lot more injuries now vs 10 years ago. Thinking outside the box I’d like to see a study on how much smart phone/tablet usage affects throwing injuries
So jaden hill didn’t play on a tourney ball team? He played spring rec ball growing up and football in the fall
So jaden hill didn’t play on a tourney ball team? He played spring rec ball growing up and football in the fall
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:24 pm to geauxfortwo
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Thinking outside the box I’d like to see a study on how much smart phone/tablet usage affects throwing injuries
fricking wut?Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:37 pm to geauxfortwo
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I agree there are a lot more injuries now vs 10 years ago. Thinking outside the box I’d like to see a study on how much smart phone/tablet usage affects throwing injuries
Dude...what?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:43 pm to CottonWasKing
you have explained to me what you believe at least 6 times. i don't really care about your opinion on this. I'm sure it is very informed, but I believe that conventional wisdom is wrong.
The earth was believed to be flat. It wasn't though, was it?
The earth was believed to be flat. It wasn't though, was it?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:44 pm to BigEdLSU
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:44 pm to geauxfortwo
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Thinking outside the box I’d like to see a study on how much smart phone/tablet usage affects throwing injuries
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:48 pm to geauxfortwo
How stoned are you?
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:49 pm to BigEdLSU
What is your obsession with using the earth is flat example?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 8:51 pm to IM_4_LSU
im openminded to using a better known example. got any suggestions?
I would use global warming but that would turn the thread political. i Don't want to be biased.
I would use global warming but that would turn the thread political. i Don't want to be biased.
This post was edited on 3/25/19 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:27 pm to Mrtommorrow1987
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How stoned are you?
A few beverages in....but seriously there are a lot of cases of tendinitis, cubital tunnel syndrome, carpal tunnel, and other things associated with over use of smartphones. Have you ever been on your phone long enough to have elbow/forearm tightness?
Those excuses are just about as likely as Alan Dunn abusing arms after 26 years of coaching pitchers at the highest level
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:32 pm to BigEdLSU
Big Ed,
If you seriously want some medical insight to the issue of the injuries baseball pitchers, then feel free to search out some of my prior posts on the subject. I made a post regarding the difficulties with assessing UCL injuries, etc. I also made another post or two explaining that Mainieri’s usage of his pitchers is very safe and conservative compared to many other coaches.
I don’t have the time to rehash all of these issues again, but if you really want an honest opinion from the sports medicine world, then search these aforementioned posts that I made previously.
For the record: I run a very busy sports medicine practice in S. Alabama. We see MANY throwing injuries on a regular basis. Shoulder injuries are often pretty easy to diagnose, but UCL and other forearm injuries are often vague. Even more vague, can be the elusive “forearm soreness.” I have little ones to go put to bed, so I’ll digress here...
If you seriously want some medical insight to the issue of the injuries baseball pitchers, then feel free to search out some of my prior posts on the subject. I made a post regarding the difficulties with assessing UCL injuries, etc. I also made another post or two explaining that Mainieri’s usage of his pitchers is very safe and conservative compared to many other coaches.
I don’t have the time to rehash all of these issues again, but if you really want an honest opinion from the sports medicine world, then search these aforementioned posts that I made previously.
For the record: I run a very busy sports medicine practice in S. Alabama. We see MANY throwing injuries on a regular basis. Shoulder injuries are often pretty easy to diagnose, but UCL and other forearm injuries are often vague. Even more vague, can be the elusive “forearm soreness.” I have little ones to go put to bed, so I’ll digress here...
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:40 pm to DocRock
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Even more vague, can be the elusive “forearm soreness.”
I agree with you here. All i'm saying is that maybe people should think outside of the box. this specific kid does not fit the stereotype. mesomorphic multi sport athlete with a hard to diagnose potential injury. Of course they are going to shut him down from precaution, but I'm sure you understand the concern.
new injuries, new diagnoses, sounds like it needs a new hypothesis.
ETA: There is no way that Hill got this issue from only his live game action at LSU. I think some of you guys are trying to say manererei doesn't over pitch our guys in live action. I agree with that. Who was the exception... louis coleman during the CWS? I'm sure coleman literally begged the coaches to go out in game 3, he knew he wasn't going to pursue baseball as a career and wanted to win it all.
But if Jaden Hill only pitched a small amount vs an opponent, that's not when the injury hpapened. I fully believe you that the way the coach handles the pitching in-game is to protect the kids (other than waiting way too long to yank guys that are getting blasted, that that is another topic) BUT what I am saying is that if these injuries keep popping up, and especially with a guy like Hill, the practice and off seaso workload needs to be looked at with a microscope.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 6:22 am
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:11 am to BigEdLSU
Louisiana Arm
Soreness
University
Soreness
University
Posted on 3/26/19 at 6:26 am to BigEdLSU
Posted on 3/26/19 at 8:13 am to BigEdLSU
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BUT what I am saying is that if these injuries keep popping up, and especially with a guy like Hill, the practice and off seaso workload needs to be looked at with a microscope.
I think we all agree here.
This post was edited on 3/26/19 at 8:15 am
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