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Did Chavis leaving LSU negatively affect Les Miles?

Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:21 pm
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4460 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:21 pm
I know this is off the wall and I know I should just let it go....but it gives us something to talk about during this off week. Just trying to figure out why Les was so stubborn about making changes that we fans could see needed to be done which Orgeron has done in just a few short weeks.

I wonder if Chavis leaving LSU negatively affected Miles. We all know the story....Alleva had a clause in Chavis' new contract that did not guarantee him a job at LSU if Miles left.

Les wanted Chavis to stay. After Les found out after the bowl game vs. Notre Dame that Chavis was leaving, it is my understanding that Les met with Chavis in the hotel room to try and convince him to stay. Of course, Chavis left.

It just seems that since then Les became even more conservative, stubborn, lazy, incompetent, or whatever label you want to put on it. I just wonder if Les did not care for working for Alleva any longer and he was just going through the motions and collecting his paycheck.
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:23 pm to
Posted by teeMike
In my mind, I'm already there.
Member since Feb 2007
7574 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:29 pm to
I'm certain Les did not take the handling of Chief's departure very well but the fact he turned around and hired Aranda, who some would consider one of the top DC's in College Football, indicates to me he moved on from it. I feel Cam Cameron staying had a much larger negative impact on Les. No sense in beating that dead horse though.
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:34 pm to
Nah.
Posted by arobbi3
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
1483 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 2:51 pm to
Yes, he didn't have as good of a defensive coordinator for the 15 season and the team suffered for it.
Posted by tigerfan5803
Premium Member
Member since Dec 2005
4521 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

I'm certain Les did not take the handling of Chief's departure very well but the fact he turned around and hired Aranda, who some would consider one of the top DC's in College Football


except he didn't....he turned around and hired Kevin Steele....the guy who WVU put up 70 on in a bowl game the last time he was a DC. And then that guy left Miles as well...then he made the home-run Arnada hire
Posted by LSUDAN1
Member since Oct 2010
8949 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:40 pm to
Who cares. Both are gone and LSU is better for it.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68383 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:43 pm to
Chavis saw they were trying to get rid of Miles. This was my big gripe with Alleva. Just get rid of him then, you wasted two seasons. That in itself should be enough to fire Alleva. Still a possibility you start with a whole new staff next season too.
Posted by Stealth_tiger72
Member since Oct 2016
73 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Chavis saw they were trying to get rid of Miles.


THIS IS 100% CORRECT. LSU was trying to get rid of MILES, and MILES had a stipulation in all of his assistant coaches contracts that their employment was good only as long as MILES was head coach.

They called it the MILES RULE, which is what CHAVIS lawsuit was about.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64156 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:50 pm to
No Mrs Miles. It did not.

Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10010 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:52 pm to
Miles wasn't over at the football Ops building writing up contracts, baw.

Alleva tried to slip that in there because he wanted Miles gone and it costs LSU coaches for two seasons.
Posted by Corn dog ninja
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2016
192 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:54 pm to
I'm led to believe Miles relied heavily on Chavis and Miles in order for him to run his elementary offense.
Posted by bluephi1914
Member since Jul 2016
204 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 3:57 pm to
yea I tired of les specualtions he served his purpose, we 3-0 with coach o. im all on board for coach o. lets move on. les enjoy your 10 yrs of mediocrity at purdue, you will be a god with 10 straight seasons of 8 wins. much love, toodaloo.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20962 posts
Posted on 10/25/16 at 4:08 pm to
Les Miles negatively affected himself because he was too stubborn to change.
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