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re: Did Chavis begin to trust his CBs in the 2nd half?

Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:09 am to
Posted by lsuhunt555
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:09 am to
No im not even talking about anything youve said. Im simply looking at your post history and can say that you are out of your fricking mind. You may want to think about a break from LSU football.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:16 am to
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No im not even talking about anything youve said. Im simply looking at your post history and can say that you are out of your fricking mind. You may want to think about a break from LSU football.


Contrary to your beliefs, I enjoyed the frick out of the game Saturday. The offense was amazing and it was great to watch a big win.

coming to the tiger rant to *GASP* rant about our D and you not being able to handle anything short of (LESTICLES IS AWESOME/LSU#1 YEAH) is not my problem. It sounds like it's your own insecurities that you can't be objective and take criticism of your team.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:27 am to
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Losing 5 is a possibility next year


We have loss five under Miles one time and we had to have a combination of one of the worse years a LSU QB ever had and one of the worse LSU defenses ever.

Anything in sports is possible, but to suggest a program that has been out of the top ten a total of one week during football season since 2010 might lose five games because we will be starting a new QB is fricking clueless or wishful thinking.
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
94776 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:29 am to
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It sounds like it's your own insecurities that you can't be objective and take criticism of your team.


#6yeardecline

#someguywroteanarticlewasrightaboutdecline

#2014recruitingclassfallingapart

#pastrecruitingclasseswayoverrated

#EdParisdecommit

#nowayLSUlandsTonyBrown

#TimetorealizeLSUwillneverhaveanothergreatdefense

#Idontknowwhatcyclicalmeans

#losing9playerstoNFLisnoexcuse

This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 11:31 am
Posted by Moustache
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:30 am to
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Anything in sports is possible, but to suggest a program that has been out of the top ten a total of one week during football season since 2010 might lose five games because we will be starting a new QB is fricking clueless or wishful thinking.



Or you can sit there and just ignore that fact that not ONLY will LSU be breaking in a brand new QB with no experience whatsoever, They'll likely have a new RB, new LT, 2 new WRS coupled with a D that will more than likely be average.
Posted by wilceaux
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2004
12995 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:30 am to
To be honest, next year really worries me.
With how much we are going to lose on offense, and seeing these young guys on defense, next year could be a struggle.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 11:34 am to
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6yeardecline


I still don't know where you're getting this from.

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#someguywroteanarticlewasrightaboutdecline


he is so far about declining this year and maybe next. Not sure where you're getting 6 years from.

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#2014recruitingclassfallingapart


You forget the conditional statement I had behind that. IF we lost a position coach.

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pastrecruitingclasseswayoverrated


judging our DTs, LBs, and Safeties, I'd say so.

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#EdParisdecommit


Probably not. Hootie is possible though.

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#nowayLSUlandsTonyBrown


never said that at all. You're making shite up again because some said something mean about your wittle tigers.

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TimetorealizeLSUwillneverhaveanothergreatdefense




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#Idontknowwhatcyclicalmeans


Well, if you're taking the cyclical argument, isn't our down cycle or #decline about due? Dummy.

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#losing9playerstoNFLisnoexcuse



Minter, Mingo, Montgomery, Logan, Simon, Reid. That's only 6. Not to say it isn't HUGE, but to say this is all on experience is dumb.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:10 pm to
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.Michael Brockers, Sam Montgomery, Mingo, Kevin Minter, Tyrann, and Eric Reid LSU defense that gave up the winning td in 30 seconds.



Maybe they didn't wanna dominate Bama only to get Chavised again.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:16 pm to
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Maybe they didn't wanna dominate Bama only to get Chavised again


People say this as a troll, but I definitely think the Bama choke from '11 champ game and last year had something to do with all the juniors leaving.

Sam, mingo, and Reid were all leaving regardless because they got high grades.

In a typical year though, Logan, Minter, and Simon stay to help win a championship.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:25 pm to
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next year really worries me.


Every year really worries me.

Take this year:

Zach was coming off a mediocre 2012 year, our defense was giving up an alarming amount of yardage to QBs with a beating heart, we had our third OC joining us in the last three years, we had loss maybe the most talent off the team from the year before that we had ever experienced, and our most talented RB was hanging on to the team by a thread.

I don't see 2014 topping that and so far, we are a Top 10 team.

As long as we have one the most successful staffs in the NCAA, we will be ok.

Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4933 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:26 pm to
Here is the problem that I have with all the fans complaining about needing to blitz more:

Who has proven to have the ability to consistently get to the QB if he does call it? Answer: nobody
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:31 pm to
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Here is the problem that I have with all the fans complaining about needing to blitz more:

Who has proven to have the ability to consistently get to the QB if he does call it? Answer: nobody



Yeah, but who has proven at LB that they can stop the run? Who has proven in the secondary that they can cover their WRS for 6+ seconds due to the QB having all day long to pass?


Answer: nobody

Might as well blitz. See UGA game. The difference in their game winning drive compared to our last attempt to get into FG range is they blitzed. The blitz fricked mett up and caused him to make 2 poor throws.
Posted by lsu480
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Member since Oct 2007
92902 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:52 pm to
Call me crazy, but I don't think anything you have said is that crazy!
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 12:59 pm to
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Call me crazy, but I don't think anything you have said is that crazy!


Me neither.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4933 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:01 pm to
News flash:

It's not LB's that are messing up. It's the DE's. most rushing yards allowed by lsu have been off tackle on both sides. On this Runs the DE is taken out of the play every time. Have LB's been good? No. But it all starts with the DE's.
Posted by Amish threesome
Olive Branch
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:12 pm to
This really haven't been talked about with our defense. I wonder if chief is starting to toy with the ideal of a 3-4 defense. In the second half I saw the defense move to a 3-4 and low and behold they got pressure on the QB. With the spread offensives it looks like everyone are starting to move that direction. We have the LBs to do it. Ego an freak already taken double teams it just seams the logical choice to move 3-4.
Posted by The312
I Live in The Three One Two
Member since Aug 2008
6967 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:42 pm to
Statistically, the defense performed better in the second half. They obviously allowed far fewer points. However, a closer examination reveals that the defense may not have actually performed demonstrably better after half time. The "stops" that I can recall offhand included:

(1) A missed FG;

(2) An INT resulting from a grotesque overthrow to a wide open receiver along the sidelines on 3rd and long. I suppose you can give some scintilla of credit to the pass rush, some Tiger may have been in in the general vicinity of the QB, but it was primarily just a terrible throw;

(3) A deflected pass by Martin to an open receiver in the sideline gap of the cover two scheme. I give Martin credit for recovering, but a timely pass on the right trajectory would have resulted in a huge gain.

(4) A fumble in desperation time.

I'm grateful all of these plays occurred, but I don't really know if they signaled a true improvement in the defensive execution, or if they were merely a product of MSU blunders.
This post was edited on 10/7/13 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:44 pm to
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It's not LB's that are messing up. It's the DE's. most rushing yards allowed by lsu have been off tackle on both sides. On this Runs the DE is taken out of the play every time. Have LB's been good? No. But it all starts with the DE's.


I can't disagree with you there. Rasco is especially bad about getting turned in. Hunter has youth as an excuse, and Allen is probably better of the 3, but is still painfully average.

But, there's no doubt Welter whiffs on a bunch of tackles, along with Barrow. Those guys should be getting killer stats. I'm not saying it'll solve our problems, but it'll turn 8-10 yd gains into 4-5 yd gains at least.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21650 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 1:47 pm to
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This really haven't been talked about with our defense. I wonder if chief is starting to toy with the ideal of a 3-4 defense. In the second half I saw the defense move to a 3-4 and low and behold they got pressure on the QB. With the spread offensives it looks like everyone are starting to move that direction. We have the LBs to do it. Ego an freak already taken double teams it just seams the logical choice to move 3-4.


lol wut?

We have nowhere near the personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Hell, we're too small on the dline for a 4-3, let alone a 3-4.
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7438 posts
Posted on 10/7/13 at 2:06 pm to
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We have nowhere near the personnel to run a 3-4 defense. Hell, we're too small on the dline for a 4-3, let alone a 3-4.


I think he's confusing the 3-4 with the "mustang" package.
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