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re: Dick Burleson, LSU-Alabama replay supervisor

Posted on 11/12/09 at 2:55 pm to
Posted by CharlesLSU
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 2:55 pm to
FWIW, we would've lost anyways.


....is it possible he made an error in judgement regarding "inconclusive" evidence?

actually, that is what I want to ask him. If he admits he may have made a mistake, then I can go from there. BUT, knowing Dick, I doubt he admits that. I argued til I was blue in the face that he made a bad call against UF in 1989, but he wouldn't budge.
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 2:58 pm to
high character people admit when they made a mistake
Posted by Dobermann
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

This is the kind of shite that makes no want to watch or give two shits about college football


NFL refs>>>>>>>>>SEC(WWE)refs

NFL refs actually use replay to get the call right...not to defend the call on the field. In the few instances that they mess up, there is a public apology and explanation(pittsburgh/SD last yr)

I really hope this whole thing eventually blows up in the SEC's face, especially since they are trying to shut everyone up that speaks out about the issue.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

high character people admit when they made a mistake



truth
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:00 pm to
I don't think General Burleson made a bad call, as it wasn't his call to make. I believe Gerald made a bad call. I don't believe the conspiracy bs, but even good officials (and good men)make mistakes. Gerald Hodges is both, and everything I know about the good General says he is to, although I don't know him personally.
Posted by tiger64
Rowlett (Dallas area)
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:05 pm to
ok if you do talk to him about it (and I doubt that will happen since it is being deep-sixed by the SEC) how about asking him EXACTLY what he saw to CONFIRM the call on the field. Also ask him if it isn't a perceived conflict of interest by others for him to be involved in the Bama games -- and at a minimum be an awfully poor image for the SEC when controversial calls result ???
Posted by gpttigers
Katy, TX
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:05 pm to
all it took was a pair of eyes to make that call. It took almost no interpretation or rules. the sec should be ashamed of itself. the fact that the office is in the state of alabama can not be ignored.

i nearly threw my sons firetruck i was sooo pissed off but a cool head pevailed.
Posted by gpttigers
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/12/09 at 3:10 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:07 pm to
guys, what is lost in translation is that this was Gerald's call, not Dick's.

I will ask what I can get away with, but he may stonewall me........we'll see.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44881 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:07 pm to
Didn't Dandy Don used to be an official? Everybody says he is of the highest character. He should be an official for the next LSU/Bama game.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:08 pm to
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CharlesLSU
Appreciate that you may know this fellow, like him, respect him, look up to him, etc.
That may make you as hindered a judge of Burleson, as he was of Bama.

It certainly seems to be affecting your logic in this thread.
Not trying to be mean, just honest with you.



For example, your statement
quote:

Dick is a GT alum and huge fan all the way. He is not a Bama alum; therefore, your assertions using an LSU alum not officiating an LSU contest is flawed.
Was a response to this:
quote:

I actually know a former SEC official. He did not graduate from LSU but lives close to Baton Rouge and is of insanely high character as well. He was never allowed to call any LSU games or any that would directly influence LSU's season. So, I cannot understand why this guy is allowed to work this game . . . high character or not.
It is pretty clear this guy has a conflict of interest with Bama, The Auburn folks are all over this. You seem to think he had conflicts of interest elsewhere too?

Perhaps with Florida?
Because this is not the first horrible call controversy he's been involved with in 2009 either!
quote:

Dan Mullen blasts replay official in Gators game

ESPN's replays showed the ball coming free before the goal line.

Asked about the call on his weekly teleconference, Mullen said he has seen "over and over" replays that show the ball out of Doe's hand before he crossed the goal line.

"I don't know why we even have replay right now in the Southeastern Conference if they are not going to utilize it," Mullen said. "That's twice that they've blown calls on the replay with our games resulting in big plays and I think that's unexcusable for that official. I mean, I hope he is severely punished, if (he) ever works another SEC game again, because I think it is completely unacceptable."

Dan Dembinski was listed as the replay official in Saturday's game. Dick Burleson was listed as the replay booth communicator. On the field, Penn Wagers led the crew.

SEC spokesman Charles Bloom said Sunday the league wouldn't immediately comment.
Doesn't pass the smell test.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44881 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:10 pm to
Since when does a boss in the same room not have influence?
Posted by gpttigers
Katy, TX
Member since May 2005
973 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:10 pm to
all it took was a pair of eyes to make that call. It took almost no interpretation or rules. the sec should be ashamed of itself. the fact that the office is in the state of alabama can not be ignored.

i nearly threw my sons firetruck i was sooo pissed off but a cool head pevailed.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

Dan Dembinski


Louisiana guy, so I guess Louisiana's in on the conspiracy too.
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:10 pm to
Not to mention, it wasnt JUST THE INTERCEPTION CALL!!

What about 4 & 6th turns into 4th and inches.

Or the host of others??
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135622 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:11 pm to
quote:

If he admits he may have made a mistake, then I can go from there. BUT, knowing Dick, I doubt he admits that. I argued til I was blue in the face that he made a bad call against UF in 1989, but he wouldn't budge.

How high is his character, again?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:14 pm to
quote:

How high is his character, again?


Exactly!!
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33251 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:14 pm to
NC, I passed over the long post and misread.

Look, I am not disputing the obvious turd in the punch bowl. I just am waiting to see how it got there......

I do like the guy, but recognize the "if it walks like a duck" syndrome.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83161 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:18 pm to
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ok if you do talk to him about it (and I doubt that will happen since it is being deep-sixed by the SEC) how about asking him EXACTLY what he saw to CONFIRM the call on the field

Can you ask him too why HD monitors wouldnt be a good idea?
Posted by Ray Ray Rodman
Florida
Member since Mar 2005
17654 posts
Posted on 11/12/09 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

I just am waiting to see how it got there......


But thats just what they want. Everyone to move along and forget about it until next time it happens. I am over this shite. If I ever ran into that piece of shite, I would rather go to jail for assault then not knock him the frick out.
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