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Defense film study, a disappointing watch (kinda long)

Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:05 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:05 pm
As many here have said, the players seem to be disinterested and just go through the motions. The #18 jersey at LSU symbolizes the one player who will work his arse off and give every drop of blood, sweat, and tears for his team every single play. I hope he can turn it around, but Damone is not living up to the 18. I'm judging on effort alone. I don't expect him to be Devin White but I do expect effort. He's certainly not the only one loafing. Unless Mizzou is the most deceptive offense evar, then we have major problems seeing the ball and reading plays.

Not only are our DB's confused with coverages, etc but I believe our LB's and d-line are as well. If they aren't confused, then they have no discipline to fill their gaps. For example - I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that in the 4-3 defense, the MLB makes the call of which side is strong/weak. The strong side DE is supposed to set the edge and turn the play back inside. The weak side DE has an inside gap and the weak side OLB has the edge. What I've observed are multiple occasions where the DE and OLB are both crashing inside and literally no one is protecting the edge. It happens when we're in the base 4-3 and also when we're in nickel with only 2 LB's on field. You cannot play LB back-peddling constantly. You need to read the play and shoot a gap or step forward and take on the blocker. Taking on the blocker while you're moving backwards is never going to work.

The thing I hate the most is how our players are finishing plays. Multiple guys floating around, hoping someone else makes a play. They have no confidence and know they can't stop the other team. No fire. No one's pissed off.



1. Gaye does not set the edge, he gets driven 8 yards off the line of scrimmage. Clark runs around the outside and tackles an o-lineman while the runner continues upfield.




2. Ojulari dives inside, bites hard on the fake dive. Cox also takes an inside angle and gets caught up, then driven about 8 yards upfield.




3. Ojulari over-pursues the RB, the QB pulls the ball and no one is on the edge. Not a big gain, but you see the problem.




4. At least Cox tries to tackle the RB. Clark retreats heavily and then assumes Cox tackles him before the RB is on the ground. You can see the piss-poor effort as he pulls up before the play is over.




5. Clark retreats from the blocker and is 9 yds off the line of scrimmage before falling over the pile.




6. Nickel (I think). Only 2 LB's. Cox blitzes so Clark has middle but bites hard on the fake sweep and takes himself out the play.




7. Confusion with coverage. Clark takes a few steps to guard the TE from the opposite side. He then realizes the crossing route enters his zone but he's out of position and doesn't have the make-up speed to get there. Easy 3rd down conversion.




8. Clark again bites hard on the fake sweep and runs himself out of the play.




9. Two plays got saved into this one gif, not sure how. But it's fitting because both plays Anthony dives inside. Cox dives hard inside on the first play and then takes a ridiculous angle on the second play, both times leaving the edge totally exposed.





PS - and these are all from the 1st half

This post was edited on 10/12/20 at 7:20 pm
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38208 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:11 pm to
Discipline, correct assignment, and correct alignment. Our guys have none of these.

Reminds me of the early 2014 defense. Time to go back to basics.
Posted by adambomb
Member since Dec 2014
1462 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:14 pm to
good post
Posted by NorthTxLSU
Dallas, Tx
Member since Nov 2018
11061 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:14 pm to
wow. i just find it hard to believe either of the freshman LB’s can’t play better than that
Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:15 pm to
Didn’t need to watch or read any of it to know that they don’t give a frick, you put more effort into your post than they put in on the field.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:15 pm to
This is just baffling to watch. He was not that bad last year. WTF is really going on here. Do they hate playing for Pellini or is the key reads that different in his defense.
Posted by shackleford318
Altoona, pa
Member since May 2020
708 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:17 pm to
It’s amazing how bad Clark is a and Cox isn’t much better.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

This is just baffling to watch. He was not that bad last year
Agreed. I was excited to see him this year, I have no explanation.
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:18 pm to
Appreciate all the work and insight you provided. We cant really know if the common 4-3 base responsibilities apply. There’s whatever the assignments are for base D plus whatever opponent specific checks were installed for this game. The talk leading up to the game was the triple-option amd everyone playing their gaps. Who knows what the keys were per formation.

Your clips did illustrate issues with our LBs
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10678 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:24 pm to
Excellent post
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

There’s whatever the assignments are for base D plus whatever opponent specific checks were installed for this game.
I agree with you. If we were preparing for triple-option then you need to be even more disciplined that ever. My comments about confusion are in line with what you're saying. Whatever the assignments are supposed to be, it's definitely not designed to have the DE and OLB both crashing inside leaving the edge wide open. They're confused and/or undisciplined, probably both.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7306 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:28 pm to
It's time to take Clarke off the field you have to be able to get off the block and tackle he backs up and plays pitty padie the team also needs to learn to gang tackle
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:33 pm to
I hear ya. Watching my kid’s high school games i tend to have similar thoughts and i’m like wtf were you (or teammate) doing on this play. Then he says based on opponent or adjustment or different personnel.

All i know is that late ling pass play to 18 where 1 db was in man and everyone else was in zone. Total frick up i would assume. I’ve seen man-zone combos but never just 1 db. Maybe that is chalked up to misread/miscommunication for coverage or check?...

It’s all pretty damn embarrassing that there appears to be that many holes in out pass d...
Posted by SeaBass23
VA
Member since Jul 2019
1582 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:51 pm to
I’m not a football expert, but the one thing in common on all of those clips is the Dline stands up and gets driven back. The first clip looks like they were on roller skates.
Posted by mgdtiger
Member since May 2006
2838 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 7:51 pm to
On clip 2. Ojulari does what he is supposed to do on a option play. The tackle goes down and he needs to close that gap down as his responsibility is the dive. Cox obviously has to keep outside leverage on the play to turn the runner back in. Plus other issues.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43058 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:24 pm to
quote:

On clip 2. Ojulari does what he is supposed to do on a option play. The tackle goes down and he needs to close that gap down as his responsibility is the dive.
On an option play, the DE has the QB not the dive.
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
5546 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 8:36 pm to
Holy shite on last clip that dude pushes Ricks down.
Posted by Folsom
Folsom
Member since Mar 2006
3305 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Do they hate playing for Pellini


This has to be answered.
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:06 pm to
Damn Mick, Why you gotta show all those gif's? Great post but damn it hurts seeing how bad it was. I remember it in real time, but when you look at the gifs it's just plain awful how out of place and rooked they were by any slight misdirection.

Our line really isn't helping the LB's with anything either. They rarely make a tackle or get any pressure. No excuse for that considering the talent gap.
Posted by LSUtoOmaha
Nashville
Member since Apr 2004
26574 posts
Posted on 10/12/20 at 9:06 pm to
This is one of the most depressing (but informative) posts I’ve read in a long time
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