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re: Dale Brown whining on Buddy Songy
Posted on 1/28/09 at 2:47 pm to Bandits
Posted on 1/28/09 at 2:47 pm to Bandits
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he starts whining about the lack of respect for basketball at LSU all at the expense of football
Thats because he was dead on. The year Brown came to LSU, we had played basketball in the "cow palace." BB didnt have its own arena for 36 yrs until 1972.
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Posted on 1/28/09 at 2:47 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:I agree. He was horrible in his last 6 or 7 years and quite frankly should have been fired when it became apparent he had no idea what to do with a talent laiden team that had Chris Jackson, Stanley Roberts and Shaquille. I'll never forget the SEC tourney in Orlando in '90. He couldn't beat an average Auburn team in the very first round with all that talent and UK was out of the tourney on probation. And with all that talent, he also got blown out by a walk-on filled patched up weak Florida team with a scrub coach that year. I would have fired him after that game. The man quit coaching by the time shaq arrived.
Although Dale did a lot to build up LSU as a basketball school/program, his last 5 years or so, did more to create the indifference among fans than anything or anyone
This post was edited on 1/28/09 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 1/28/09 at 2:48 pm to TigerPhan27
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He's also the reason the basketball program went back in the crapper and got put on probation
To be fair, before Dale Brown we had a coach that could not even make the NCAA tournament with the greatest player in history on his teams.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 2:53 pm to Kracka
Roy Williams, lifelong Dean Smith Asst at UNC, and Kansas HC prior to return to alma mater Chapel Hill = NCAA Chosen One = Untouchable
Dale Brown and Jerry Tarkanian, friends, two mutts from nowhere, built hoops programs from nada into national powers, one in an football conference SEC where blueblood Kentucky(monster cheater throughout their history) rules the roost and is the largely lone superpower, the other in the gambling mecca of the USA, both while calling out the hypocrites in the NCAA offices of the then Shawnee Mission-Kansas(now Indianapolis) as "Gestapo Bastards" = Targeted Outcasts
They all cheat..whether a little or a lottle..whom you are and how you do such..whether with discretion or not..matters much!
Dale Brown and Jerry Tarkanian, friends, two mutts from nowhere, built hoops programs from nada into national powers, one in an football conference SEC where blueblood Kentucky(monster cheater throughout their history) rules the roost and is the largely lone superpower, the other in the gambling mecca of the USA, both while calling out the hypocrites in the NCAA offices of the then Shawnee Mission-Kansas(now Indianapolis) as "Gestapo Bastards" = Targeted Outcasts
They all cheat..whether a little or a lottle..whom you are and how you do such..whether with discretion or not..matters much!
This post was edited on 1/28/09 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:00 pm to TheRoarRestoredInBR
Let's get something clear. Am I saying that Roy Williams walks on water and raises the dead? No I am not(unless you consider the UNC Tarheels under Brad Daugherty dead...then yes he does). I am sure he has his skeletons. Every coach at some point crosses line whether its calling recruits when he's not suppose to to get a jump on someone, to the coach who flat out pays players. I was simply responding to the comment about RW supposedly convincing Lester Earl to make shite up about Dale Brown in order to get a full release from his scholarship. That is outright ridiculous.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:04 pm to Kracka
we should all be able to agree that RW is a total piece of crap liar.
On the other side, the basketball program is dumped on and not respected by fans and the athletic dept in general. DB is 100% right on this point.
On the other side, the basketball program is dumped on and not respected by fans and the athletic dept in general. DB is 100% right on this point.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:08 pm to danfraz
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we should all be able to agree that RW is a total piece of crap liar.
who 95% of yall wish were the coach at LSU
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:12 pm to Kracka
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who 95% of yall wish were the coach at LSU
true LSU basketball fans wouldn't want him coaching the womens bball team bro
ya'll can love him all you want ova in NC but no one here would want him IMHO
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:14 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
LSU is a football school and will always be a football school.
Actually it's more of a baseball school.
Look at the titles.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:22 pm to danfraz
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ya'll can love him all you want ova in NC but no one here would want him IMHO
That doesn't hurt my feelings at all. But anyone who wouldn't want him as coach, doesn't want to win period. But that is fine and dandy with me. LSU's got a fabulous coach already. They don't need RW.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:29 pm to Kracka
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But anyone who wouldn't want him as coach, doesn't want to win period
Cmon man are you saying that the only way someone can win is with RW?
Im happy for NC that ya'll have the coach you wanted, I could care less too but don't expect unconditional love for someone that this fan base sees as a hypocrite.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:33 pm to danfraz
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Cmon man are you saying that the only way someone can win is with RW?
Sorry you took it that way. What I mean is, RW is a great coach, if someone doesn't want a great coach because they hold him responsible for LSU's probabtion based on ridiculous allegations, then you don't want to win. Mainly because if you feel that way your stupid.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:37 pm to IrishEyes
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Actually it's more of a baseball school.
Look at the titles.
So, with this reasoning, it would actually be, primarily a women's track school.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:38 pm to Kracka
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What I mean is, RW is a great coach, if someone doesn't want a great coach because they hold him responsible for LSU's probabtion based on ridiculous allegations, then you don't want to win
mmmmm nah. I'll take any of the other "10" great coaches than him is all Im saying. Where'd Lester end up by the way? yes that is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:41 pm to danfraz
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I'll take any of the other "10" great coaches than him is all Im saying.
And I hope that is because they are good coaches, not because they weren't involved in LSU's probation.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:43 pm to Y.A. Tittle
Before we annoint Roy Williams as a coach who could win titles any place he goes, let's take into consideration the fact that he took over some tailor-made situations. He's only walked into jobs with the best facilities, greatly funded, no other athletic programs on campus to rival the hoops teams, and places that recruit themselves. But props to him, you still have to coach the talent and he has.
I'm not saying he couldn't build anything from the ground up, I'm just saying we've never seen it and will not ever see it. Kudos to him for being selective with his jobs and setting himself up for success. All that being said, I'm not a fan.
I'm not saying he couldn't build anything from the ground up, I'm just saying we've never seen it and will not ever see it. Kudos to him for being selective with his jobs and setting himself up for success. All that being said, I'm not a fan.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:44 pm to Kracka
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And I hope that is because they are good coaches
Im pretty pleased with Trent, thought it was a really good hire when it was done.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:54 pm to danfraz
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Im pretty pleased with Trent, thought it was a really good hire when it was done.
Like I said in another thread, I am very happy with the hire. I think he will do alot of good things at LSU. LSU needed a guy who is a class act, and they couldn't have made a better decision. He did well at Stanford, I imagine he will do better here.
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:55 pm to b rod lsu
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He's only walked into jobs with the best facilities, greatly funded, no other athletic programs on campus to rival the hoops teams, and places that recruit themselves. But props to him, you still have to coach the talent and he has.
Sounds alot like Les Miles doesn't it?
Posted on 1/28/09 at 3:56 pm to SG_Geaux
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LSU is a football school and will always be a football school.
You're probably right, for our lifetimes. Soccer is growing by leaps and bounds in the US, and I used to hear a lot about college lacrosse. Not so much lately, though.
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