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re: Current SEC Kenpom MBB rankings, LSU is 9th in SEC.

Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by LakeCityTiger128
Member since Dec 2025
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:41 pm to
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is doing great in year 2 at his new school where our current coach is in year 6 and behind him.


I thought it was his first year? And, not keeping up with them, but you are calling him doing great in the pre-season? I thought we were waiting for the conference play to start before determining how good a team may be. Granted, the acc isn't what they used to be in basketball, and the SEC is much more strong than it used to be.....but are we determining success before conference play starts? Just want to know, so we can give our coach the same judgement rules.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:41 pm to
You fit in perfectly with the mcmen
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:44 pm to
And you continue to make up shite about money when you have no clue. I’ve spoken with the group that managed a lot of the players and is involved in the NIL arena. I’ll take them over an emotional dweeb like you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:46 pm to
Lmfao, kinda like when we were a week away from canceling the season because one of you was best friends with a coach and knew about it? Or when the mcmen knew for a fact that Arkansas basketball spent more than Ohio State football on NIL last season? You people are incapable of honesty.
This post was edited on 12/24/25 at 12:48 pm
Posted by LakeCityTiger128
Member since Dec 2025
518 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:48 pm to
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It is really staggering how poor McMahon is as a coach


hasn't he gone farther in the NCAA trny than wade?
Posted by Madking
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70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:49 pm to
No
Posted by LakeCityTiger128
Member since Dec 2025
518 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:53 pm to
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You fit in perfectly with the mcmen


not me...I quit watching years ago when it was obvious we didn't have the coaching to get us back to the final 4 (included WW). Hate on Brown all you want, but when Tournament time rolled around LSU was usually in the mix and on several occassions made some deep runs. I was fortunate to get to watch all that....couple final 4s and several sweet 16's...and a screw job by the refs and Bobby Knight....from another final 4. WW created some hype, but wasn't much on deep runs.
Posted by LakeCityTiger128
Member since Dec 2025
518 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 12:56 pm to
well keep bringing us some inside information and knowledge. It is appreciated.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 1:13 pm to
Never hated on Brown, I said repeatedly he’s our greatest overall and basically made LSU relevant nationally. You make a lot of false and weightless presumptions.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 1:31 pm to
“WW created some hype, but wasn't much on deep runs”


And how was that hype created?

Maybe it’s the alltime best win%?

Maybe it’s qualifying for the Big Dance in 4 of 5 seasons?

Maybe it’s only losing once in the 1st round?

Maybe it’s the SEC championship?

Maybe it’s having that type of success compared to the previous 2 guys and the succeeding coach failing historically?


And BTW it took Brown 7 seasons to even make the Tourney so your standards don’t appear to be consistent.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 1:56 pm to
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hasn't he gone farther in the NCAA trny than wade?


False, boomer.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
47909 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 1:59 pm to
Those dudes have zero perspective. They judge Wade against Wade and McMahon against no one. LSU was 2-16 SEC the year before Wade was hired and 2-16 SEC the year after he was fired, but they don’t care to remember that. They care that he wasn’t on the bench for the Sweet 16 win, not that he never had fewer than 8 SEC wins in any season, and the 8 wins were his first season, taking over a 2-16 squad.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:02 pm to
A lot of our “basketball fans” don’t watch basketball in general and only watch Saturday SEC games when it comes to LSU. I say this to make the comparison of Brian Kelly in football. We just fired a guy who’s had at least some success and fans were almost unanimously on board for that decision because they watch the games and they see the chronic problems. In basketball they don’t watch so they can’t see it and just about every mcmen wouldn’t know what good was because they’re not actually basketball fans. So you get this abstract defense of MM based on off of the court reasoning which is why their arguments look so silly.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:03 pm to
That’s what happens when just choose a position outside of fact and dig your heels in no matter the results.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:16 pm to
I like that one guy talking about draconian sanctions when we lost 1 scholarship, 12 instead of 13 for two years.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:17 pm to
I saw that but didn’t even respond. That guy is too far gone into lala land.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8753 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:35 pm to
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A lot of our “basketball fans” don’t watch basketball in general and only watch Saturday SEC games when it comes to LSU. I say this to make the comparison of Brian Kelly in football. We just fired a guy who’s had at least some success and fans were almost unanimously on board for that decision because they watch the games and they see the chronic problems. In basketball they don’t watch so they can’t see it and just about every mcmen wouldn’t know what good was because they’re not actually basketball fans. So you get this abstract defense of MM based on off of the court reasoning which is why their arguments look so silly.


All of this is accurate. They just see 11-1 and think all is good to go. I will give props for the SMU win. That was a good one. Texas Tech was a disaster that we have seen multiple times under McMahon. The cupcake wins do not give an accurate reading.

However, both the Boston College and Prairie View games had disturbing aspects that will burn this team come conference time. Those games resulted in wins so that’s all the McMen care about.

Would LSU football fans feel good about a last second field goal win in Tiger Stadium against Oregon State? Same principle applies in hoops. For whatever reason, McMahon is never held accountable by some on here.

I’m looking very forward to SEC play. It will be extremely telling.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70624 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 2:46 pm to
I’m kind of in the camp of not being able to tell because we’ve only played 2 games of any real note. The personnel fits what’s worked for him but at the same time that ceiling is low and he hasn’t shown any growth as a coach. We already see him shortening the rotation again as SEC play draws near. We’re still not any good on D and we’re still very limited on how we attack teams. This means our players will have to overachieve and even though I think we have some good players the question is can guys like Sutton, DJ and McKinnon maintain a high level of play vs SEC competition?
Posted by GreenieTiger
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2014
745 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 5:02 pm to
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I’m kind of in the camp of not being able to tell because we’ve only played 2 games of any real note.
This is why it's so hard to predict our SEC record. We've all debated on here about the arse beating LSU took against the only great team they've played so far this season in Tech... SMU was a good win but by the end of the season I expect SMU to be a low Quad 2 team after their ACC schedule. What has been most disappointing is how we've performed against many of our garbage opponents so far. LSU has pulled away in the end in many of these, but they were all on our home court with SEC refs playing 6th man many times. I want McMahon to succeed and make the tournament this season, but having watched a lot of non-conference SEC basketball, I don't see how this is possible.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18699 posts
Posted on 12/24/25 at 5:19 pm to
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What has been most disappointing is how we've performed against many of our garbage opponents so far.


I was encouraged by the SMU game. SMU likely a bubble team in talent and in fact, but we handled them and played about as good a game as I've seen a CMM team play against a decent opponent.

But the last two games did not seem to build on that. So, I'm back to cautious in regard to buying in on this team and on CMM.

I'd LOVE to see them prove me and all the doubters wrong.....I really would.
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