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re: Curiel to CF, Stanfield to LF
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:40 pm to Double Oh
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:40 pm to Double Oh
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Absolutely. My point is if you can hit they will find a spot for you and it doesn't have to be your natural spot in the outfield.
Why are you changing your point? The conversation is specifically about draft value.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:42 pm to ProjectP2294
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Absolutely. My point is if you can hit they will find a spot for you and it doesn't have to be your natural spot in the outfield.
Why are you changing your point? The conversation is specifically about draft value.
What's your question? His draft value will be high no matter if he plays LF or CF.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:44 pm to Double Oh
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What's your question? His draft value will be high no matter if he plays LF or CF.
I don't have a question. I'm telling you that you're wrong. He will be looked at as a lower value draft prospect if he only plays LF.
But feel free to cite a 4th rounder who signed for a bus ticket after his senior year as evidence that Curiel's DRAFT VALUE would not be affected.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:51 pm to ProjectP2294
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But feel free to cite a 4th rounder who signed for a bus ticket after his senior year as evidence that Curiel's DRAFT VALUE would not be affected.
In fairness, Frey was drafted in the 3rd round last year as a junior and didn't even play in the field all season. Pretty sure he was paying center field in the minors post-draft. I think he should be playing CF, but i don't think him playing left as opposed to center is going to have a huge effect on his draft status either.
Freshman Mikie Mahtook played center over Jared Mitchell, and Leon Landry before him. Mitchell still went in the 1st round
If Curiel bats .350+ and adds some power to his bat, he'll go in the first couple of rounds regardless of what position he plays. Scouts know he has the tools to play center field. Just like they knew Frey had the tools to play outfield even though he barely played in the field his entire career here, despite a lot of fans on here saying he wouldn't be drafted high because he "didn't play a position"
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:53 pm to ProjectP2294
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I don't have a question. I'm telling you that you're wrong. He will be looked at as a lower value draft prospect if he only plays LF.
Lol no you are incorrect. Teams know he played CF in high school they know he can play CF at the next level. Just because he plays LF in college will not diminish his draft value. But nice try though.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:55 pm to lsufball19
quote:He's also 6'6 220, has more projectability in his frame, has crazy power potential, and can fly
Frey was drafted in the 3rd round last year as a junior and didn't even play in the field all season.
quote:Game's changed since then. Mahtook was also a 1st rounder, so there was a reason for that.
Freshman Mikie Mahtook played center over Jared Mitchell, and Leon Landry before him. Mitchell still went in the 1st round
I see your points, just think those situation are a little different than Curiel/Stanfield.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:00 pm to lsufball19
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In fairness, Frey was drafted in the 3rd round last year as a junior and didn't even play in the field all season. Pretty sure he was paying center field in the minors post-draft.
Right. And before the draft I was one of the few people around here saying that Frey not playing a position didn't matter because everything that needed to be known about his athleticism was apparent when he ran the bases.
But we weren't talking about about a team using a first round pick on him. And we weren't talking about team potentially giving him 40% of their bonus pool.
We're talking about the types of things that could drop Curiel from being a top 5 or top ten pick, to the back of the first round. Things get more granular.
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Freshman Mikie Mahtook played center over Jared Mitchell, and
Leon Landry before him. Mitchell still went in the 1st round
Mitchell didn't have the same kinds of power concerns following him from high school and had a longer track record of performance with three years in college. Additionally, the perceived rawness from still playing football in college worked in his favor.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:01 pm to Double Oh
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Lol no you are incorrect. Teams know he played CF in high school they know he can play CF at the next level. Just because he plays LF in college will not diminish his draft value. But nice try though.
It's clear you're out of your depth here. You really should stop commenting on the baseball draft.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:04 pm to PP7 for heisman
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He's also 6'6 220, has more projectability in his frame, has crazy power potential, and can fly
the point with Frey, though, was scouts knew about his potential and where he could play at the next level. They know the same thing about Curiel's ability to play center, regardless of whether he starts there this year. I personally don't think it matters a lot. They'll be able to see how he tracks balls, what he can get to, and what his arm looks like from left field just like they can from center field. They actually know a lot more about Curiel's ability in the OF than they did about Frey. I just don't think it would have any noticeable effect on Curiel's draft status if he stayed in left.
And Curiel has a great frame too. 6'2" with plenty of room to fill in and add power to his bat.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:09 pm to ProjectP2294
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Mitchell didn't have the same kinds of power concerns following him from high school and had a longer track record of performance with three years in college.
Mitchell hit 11 HRs in 2009, 6 in 2008, and 3 in 2007. And this was with bats that were a lot hotter than the bats today are. Curiel is a much more polished baseball player than Mitchell ever was while here. Mitchell was drafted because he was a freak athlete for a baseball player and teams were hoping that once he was done with football and 100% in on baseball that he'd project into a great player. That obviously never happened. But he had plenty of concerns entering the draft.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:17 pm to lsufball19
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Mitchell was drafted because he was a freak athlete for a baseball player and teams were hoping that once he was done with football and 100% in on baseball that he'd project into a great player.
I already said that.
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Mitchell hit 11 HRs in 2009, 6 in 2008, and 3 in 2007. And this was with bats that were a lot hotter than the bats today are.
The SEC has been using tennis balls for the last couple years. Any quibbling over the bats from the two different eras is foolish.
And again, Mitchell went 23rd overall.
Curiel is in the running for a top ten pick at this point.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:20 pm to Lester Earl
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If you don’t hit you don’t play. He has to be more consistent
No, he was plenty consistent. I’d like to see him develop a little power, but I doubt that happens.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:26 pm to ProjectP2294
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It's clear you're out of your depth here. You really should stop commenting on the baseball draft.
If he's a 2nd rd pick then he will be a 2nd rd pick no matter if he plays LF or CF. You put too much emphasis on the position he plays.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:28 pm to Double Oh
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If he's a 2nd rd pick then he will be a 2nd rd pick no matter if he plays LF or CF. You put too much emphasis on the position he plays.
We're not talking about a second round pick. Again, you're out of your depth. Just stop.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:31 pm to Nomadic Bengal
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I love football, but cannot wait until the Spring.
same here - I love football and got spoiled by the Burrow/Daniels era. My expectations are too high just now.
I have always loved baseball - and now that is my favorite sport now.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:33 pm to ProjectP2294
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We're not talking about a second round pick. Again, you're out of your depth. Just stop.
Quit acting like a scout and GM of a MLB team bro. You think you know everything. Some teams don't think like you do bro. Some teams don't give a fuk about draft value.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:37 pm to ProjectP2294
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ProjectP2294
Derek's Curiel's draft status is going to depend on whether he hits for more power this year much more so than whether he plays left or center field. If he doesn't hit, at minimum, double digit HRs in 2026, he's not going to be a top 10 pick. That top 10 projection is assuming he adds power to his already existing plus tools at the plate. No one is drafting any position player in the top 10, regardless of position, who doesn't project even as an average power hitter at the next level. I think you're putting way too much stock in left/center field.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:40 pm to Double Oh
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Some teams don't give a fuk about draft value.
It's hard to accurately portray just how stupid this comment is, but also how clearly it illustrates your level of understanding of this subject.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:49 pm to lsufball19
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I think you're putting way too much stock in left/center field.
I think you're underestimating how small the margins can be and how much can be nitpicked for early first round picks.
We can disagree on that.
But my main point is that he would have to hit for a lot more power as a corner OF only guy than he would as a potential MLB CF. And for where he's looking to get drafted, that matters.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:50 pm to TIGERSby10
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Should have been that way all of last year.
When did it ever matter?
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