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Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:yep. It wasn't just one person that resulted in such a talented team fielding one of the worst offenses in school history. Crowton's inability to coach QBs, poor discipline, unorganized shuffling of player packages, and his proven history of offenses that regress coupled w/ Miles horrible clock mgt/awareness and a nonsensical philosophy that results in LSU allowing teams to hang around when the game has no business being close
It was some toxic mix of Crowtons and Miles and for a variety of reasons it didn't work. People who blame only Crowton don't have a clue what they are talking about.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:45 pm to Books
look i think crowton was a problem and added to our offensive shittiness, but i have one big point to make
for everyone who says, "you can't question les b/c he's a HC" please remember that crowton is a BCS OC, and has been for years
so how can you question him?
for everyone who says, "you can't question les b/c he's a HC" please remember that crowton is a BCS OC, and has been for years
so how can you question him?
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:46 pm to FightinTiga
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The WR screen was his,a play that definately became stale in LSU's offense.
we ran many more screens with jimbo as OC
we all but abandoned the bubble and slip screens with crowton
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:46 pm to TIGRLEE
quote:
Most games do boil down to the end.
If you are fundamentally sound on sp and defense then you will have the chance to win every game in the 4th qrter.
this makes no sense
if you play for the 4th, that means that if you played like that in the first 3, you'd be well ahead
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:51 pm to 1984Tiger
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According to the Rant, that is a true statement. It should always be run to the wide side ... where the strength of the defense is.
thats because you always run it to the wide side when playing XBOX or Playstation
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:52 pm to Books
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exactly why LSU has so many close games and often plays up or down to the opponent. Its a terrible philosophy
i bet Virginia Tech and many other teams wish Miles hadn't gone to a different philosophy for their game against LSU
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:53 pm to Choctaw
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Again....why the hell are y'all only talking about 2010???? Miles has been here 7 years...Crowton was here 4.
well i think crowton has issues, and crowton could only exist if miles didn't have any input, but these same criticisms have been around since 2005
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:54 pm to Choctaw
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i bet Virginia Tech and many other teams wish Miles hadn't gone to a different philosophy for their game against LSU
in the regular season, it isn't that many...honestly
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:54 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
please remember that crowton is a BCS OC, and has been for years
so how can you question him?
Oregon?? BYU??
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:55 pm to Choctaw
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Oregon?? BYU??
have you been an OC of a BCS team or a HC of a non-BCS team?
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:57 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well i think crowton has issues, and crowton could only exist if miles didn't have any input, but these same criticisms have been around since 2005
i do remember people bitching about Jimbo during his last year. My point is, if Miles is the only one to blame for the offensive woes (which some here are doing) then what happened all those other years. People are just pointing out last year
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:57 pm to Choctaw
quote:McNeese, Tech, Tenn, OM, Ark several times, Troy, WVU, UNC, etc etc
i bet Virginia Tech and many other teams wish Miles hadn't gone to a different philosophy for their game against LSU
Posted on 8/28/11 at 5:59 pm to Books
Oops...he's had some close games against teams he probably shouldn't have. Name me a coach who hasn't
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 6:01 pm
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:00 pm to SlowFlowPro
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have you been an OC of a BCS team or a HC of a non-BCS team?
nope....but i did go on a 3 year drinking binge in the late 90's and its kind of a blur...so who knows.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:01 pm to Choctaw
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My point is, if Miles is the only one to blame for the offensive woes (which some here are doing) then what happened all those other years. People are just pointing out last year
the super conservative offense and the overall philosophy to keep it close (esp against good teams) has been around miles' entire tenure at LSU
crowton is a vertical spread guy who dabbled in the spread option at UO...that's basically the opposite of miles' philosophy, so of course we had a horrible offense when both were together and crowton's offense sunk in (2007 was mostly jimbo's playbook with some sprinkles)
now this does beg the question why les and jimbo had so much beef, but i'm pretty sure that has more to do with les being forced to keep jimbo and disliking it in 05/06
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:03 pm to Books
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he has more than his share
he's also had more than his share of wins
Look...Im not saying Crowton should take all the blame. Im just trying to figure why some people are putting all the blame on MIles. It makes no sense.
But i do think Crowton gets the vast majority of the blame and his little smug comments are bullshite
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
Jimbo= bubble screen
Crowton= short side option
...in a nutshell, that is
Crowton= short side option
...in a nutshell, that is
Posted on 8/28/11 at 6:07 pm to Choctaw
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he's also had more than his share of wins
honest question
since 2005, rank these 3 groups (1st is which group has the most games, 3rd is the group with the least # of games in the group)
1. teams LSU shouldn't have beaten, but did
2. teams LSU shouldn't have lost to, but did
3. teams LSU should have dominated more than they did
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