re: Crowton is the issue

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bullshite. I just watched the entire game again on the geauxzone. Jefferson has absolutely No pocket presence. Florida was rushing 3 in the 2nd half and he was taking off ariund the end straight into the defensive end. That is not the coach

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Hard to say it's not the coach.

As I said, Crowton has not developed a gameplan that can help Jefferson. If Jefferson never develops a comfort level in the pocket due to the playcall... how is it not the coaching?

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Why would you be bummed about that? Isnt it much easier to make a change at OC than at Head Coach? You would have rather found out that Miles is responsible for most of the play calling? You really think there is a better chance Miles gets replaced next year than Crowton? I dont understand...

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I can't speak for him, but maybe bummed because he thought Crowton was great and Les was the reason and it turns out we just have a bad coach on the staff...

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Now, to the point at hand. We need a similar change on offense. I don't think we need a world changing, out of this park schemer hire. We need a coach who understands fundamentals and is a great teacher. I don't care what kind of offense we run - IForm, Spread Option, Spread, etc. Those things don't matter. At this point, we have the talent to do any of them if we want.

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Finally!!!!!!!

We don't need gimics when you have this much talent. Just be real good at the fundamentals, develop these exceptional recruiting talents, and get rid of the crazy formations.

It is all a flash in the pan...sizzle without the steak.

Develop great talent with good fundamental football and we will be in the national title picture year in and out.

Great Post!

It's not too early in the season. We actually can go back to last season. Yes, JL threw interceptions, no doubt, but I would say that he as a freshman was not put in a positin to have the best chance at success for a freshman either. For years, the difference in Texas and OU was not the players. It was the development of the players once they got there and OU was doing a better job. You saw the difference on the field. But Texas goes out and gets Muschamp and makes changes on the D coaching staff and players get better now. It's not just about recruiting. It's also about player development as you I know most know. I actually thought that Jefferson would be further along now and it appears to me that the offense is so complicated that it does not allow Jefferson to get really good at any one thing. Too many plays and too many reads at this point. Also, can we quit running the option to our 230lb tailback to the short side of the field 8 times a game?

If I was a football expert I would not be sitting here posting on a message board at 10:00 on a weekday morning..Now that I got that out of the way:

If you have an offensive line that is getting bent over and arse-plowed by the opposing d-line on every play, I don't care WHO your OC is or how great his playbook is, you WILL NOT MOVE THE BALL.

If you are unable to establish the run in an SEC football game, you might as well take your entire playbook and use each page for toilet paper. That would be much more useful...

We have probably seen 15-20 % of Crowton's playbook MAX this year.

The reason for this is not Crow being "vanilla". It's the fact that, week in and week out, we can't establish the run(Saturday night was the grossest example of what has been a weekly problem, for the most part). When we do come close to establishing it and JJ is able to throw it, the pocket crumbles around him completely in a matter of milliseconds..

SURELY we will see an improved O-line by next week....

I am confident that Coach Studrawa will get very little sleep over the next two weeks...

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The guy makes perfectly valid points in a reasonable way

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no, he didn't as should be evident from this thread

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backs it up with statistical proof

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you mean including a stint as head coach? how is that relevant?

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People are actually trying to figure out why a team loaded with playmakers is such a disaster offensively

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by saying that a respected coordinator is the problem when every fan in the world does the exact same thing every time the team loses? it's just too obvious why that's not legit. by complaining about a 19 year old qb with only a handful of starts? again, it's too early to know if he's going to end up being a huge problem.

what we DO KNOW is that the o line is a HUGE problem right now. i'm pointing out why it's ridiculous to speculate about things that might not even be a problem when there is a gaping hole in the offense

Then-No. 4 LSU lost 13-3 to No. 1 Florida, gaining just 162 yards, including 44 in the second half when the Tigers never crossed midfield. Miles has second-guessed Crowton for everything from not getting running backs Charles Scott and Trindon Holliday enough touches to Crowton failing to play cat-quick multi-purpose freshman Russell Shepherd to Crowton's playcalling.

"Charles Scott had four yards a carry, and Trindon Holliday six," Miles said. "And you think to yourself that maybe we should hand those guys the ball a little more.

"We didn't have protection for over-the-top throws in the second half. We probably just needed to continue to run the football. Had we done that, we would've gotten some more first downs and put us in a position to make some more play-action throws."

LSU ran just 47 plays and had the ball for less than 24 minutes. Miles criticized Crowton's in-game adjustments.

"When they have the ball like they did," Miles said of Florida's time of possession dominance, "you've got to play your best stuff. You can't wait for another drive. It's got to be the things that you can execute."

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the "stats" included a stint as HEAD COACH. i'll say it again, big difference. look at his stats as a coordinator. they're not too shabby despite what the geniuses around here think

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i cited you how we have declined in scoring every year since he's been here.

same thing at oregon.

same thing at the bears.

if i could pull up his stats at la. tech, i would...