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re: Could someone with knowledge explain what exactly the star position entails?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:53 pm to Madking
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:53 pm to Madking
quote:
Box safety” isn’t a position
Won’t argue semantics
You know what that means
The Star position isn’t a OLB, way more in coverage, way less time between the tackles than a traditional OLB in a 4-3.
They will be in coverage and in the flats but close enough to the line to be expected to make plays in the box on the run game.
A lot of what we did with Jamal Adams but there will be another Safetynout there who will drop into deep coverage if we want 2 deep safeties.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:57 pm to SammyTiger
Well that’s not true, we saw him do a ton of attacking the LOS and blitzing from the Star position as a freshman and some last season. You saw Burns blitz and play near the LOS last couple seasons as well when Perk was moved. The Star is nearly identical to an OLB position it just doesn’t use your typical LB player build. Jamal Adams was a SS who played in the box when we used 8 man fronts, which has always been done with that position including by us last season next to the Star.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:14 pm to Tigerbait8
In the old days they called it the monster
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:14 pm to SammyTiger
Go put on the first drive of the first game and you’ll see Burns playing exactly where an OLB would. You’ll see us using a stacked box with another safety right beside him, 2 high with our 2 safeties deep and Burns still at the LOS and Burns blitzing from a position indistinguishable from an OLB.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:16 pm to Madking
quote:
Well that’s not true, we saw him do a ton of attacking the LOS and blitzing from the Star position as a freshman and some last season.
I didn’t say they didn’t blitz or attack at the LOS. I said they’re expected to come up and make plays in the box.
and you absolutely see OLB between the the tackles in traditional 4-3 defenses. especially against 12 or 21
we see waaaaaaaay less of it in college because spread offenses rarely go bigger than 11.
which is why Will is almost dead in the college game
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:17 pm to Tigerbait8
It’s basically the old strong safety position
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:17 pm to SammyTiger
There’s no difference between the old will and the Star.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:24 pm to Madking
quote:
There’s no difference between the old will and the Star.
Is a nickel CB also a Will Linebacker?
There are no differences besides the differences.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:25 pm to SammyTiger
Again just go watch the games and you’ll see exactly what I’m saying in 100%. I can’t sit here and take you through things you don’t know and are unwilling to learn so go see for yourself.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:27 pm to SammyTiger
It’s like explaining football to a child. They have the same responsibility, they’re just typically matched up with different types of players and formations. The reason they use hybrid types now is because of substitution issues hurry up offenses present.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:29 pm to Madking
you’re just saying something over and over and not actually making any counter points.
which is classic you
which is classic you
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:31 pm to SammyTiger
No, I’ve been clear, you’re just throwing a tantrum
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:33 pm to Tigerbait8
In college football, the "Star" position is a hybrid defensive role, often found in a 4-2-5 base defense. It combines aspects of a safety and an outside linebacker, allowing the player to cover slot receivers, blitz, and defend the run. Essentially, the Star is a versatile defensive back who can play a variety of roles depending on the offensive formation.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Hybrid Role:
The Star is a versatile position that blends the skillsets of a safety and an outside linebacker.
Defensive Alignment:
It's a key component in a 4-2-5 defense, which uses four down linemen, two linebackers, and five defensive backs.
Responsibilities:
Star players are tasked with covering slot receivers, blitzing, defending the run, and generally acting as a playmaker in the defensive scheme.
Coverage:
They need to be adept at both man and zone coverage, particularly against slot receivers and tight ends.
Run Support:
They must also be strong and willing to tackle in run support, acting like a modern-day outside linebacker.
Physicality and Athleticism:
The Star position demands a blend of physicality and athleticism to handle a variety of offensive players and situations.
Origin:
The Star position gained prominence with coaches like Nick Saban, who used it to counter spread offenses and maximize defensive flexibility.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Hybrid Role:
The Star is a versatile position that blends the skillsets of a safety and an outside linebacker.
Defensive Alignment:
It's a key component in a 4-2-5 defense, which uses four down linemen, two linebackers, and five defensive backs.
Responsibilities:
Star players are tasked with covering slot receivers, blitzing, defending the run, and generally acting as a playmaker in the defensive scheme.
Coverage:
They need to be adept at both man and zone coverage, particularly against slot receivers and tight ends.
Run Support:
They must also be strong and willing to tackle in run support, acting like a modern-day outside linebacker.
Physicality and Athleticism:
The Star position demands a blend of physicality and athleticism to handle a variety of offensive players and situations.
Origin:
The Star position gained prominence with coaches like Nick Saban, who used it to counter spread offenses and maximize defensive flexibility.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:37 pm to PurpleSingularity
quote:I made Dhillip read that before he called into the TigerDroppings radio show back in the day...
It’s a Drop Linebacker from Tep’s best-selling novel.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:43 pm to how333
Wouldn't it create a 4-2-5 in your scenario?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:49 pm to Madking
Go watch Burns in the Ole
miss Game.
tell me that’s “just an old WOLB”
Again, is a nickel just a small fast olb?
miss Game.
tell me that’s “just an old WOLB”
Again, is a nickel just a small fast olb?
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:52 pm to SammyTiger
You don’t understand anything about football so you can go see for yourself. You can come back here and lie about it to me if you want to stroke your ego but it doesn’t change the fact.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:55 pm to Madking
quote:
You don’t understand anything about football so you can go see for yourself. You can come back here and lie about it to me if you want to stroke your ego but it doesn’t change the fact.
This is what you do. Run your mouth. Provide 0 substance, and then call other people liars.
A Star is a OLB if you ignore all the times we ask them to be a safety.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:58 pm to SammyTiger
Which is never so again you prove your ignorance.
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:58 pm to how333
quote:
tional linebackers, creating a 3-3-5 formation (three linemen, three linebackers, five defensive backs).
Don’t you mean lineman?
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