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re: Could someone with knowledge explain what exactly the star position entails?

Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:53 pm to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Box safety” isn’t a position


Won’t argue semantics

You know what that means

The Star position isn’t a OLB, way more in coverage, way less time between the tackles than a traditional OLB in a 4-3.

They will be in coverage and in the flats but close enough to the line to be expected to make plays in the box on the run game.

A lot of what we did with Jamal Adams but there will be another Safetynout there who will drop into deep coverage if we want 2 deep safeties.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 2:57 pm to
Well that’s not true, we saw him do a ton of attacking the LOS and blitzing from the Star position as a freshman and some last season. You saw Burns blitz and play near the LOS last couple seasons as well when Perk was moved. The Star is nearly identical to an OLB position it just doesn’t use your typical LB player build. Jamal Adams was a SS who played in the box when we used 8 man fronts, which has always been done with that position including by us last season next to the Star.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:10 pm
Posted by monkeymonk174
Member since Jan 2025
341 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:14 pm to
In the old days they called it the monster
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:14 pm to
Go put on the first drive of the first game and you’ll see Burns playing exactly where an OLB would. You’ll see us using a stacked box with another safety right beside him, 2 high with our 2 safeties deep and Burns still at the LOS and Burns blitzing from a position indistinguishable from an OLB.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:16 pm to
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Well that’s not true, we saw him do a ton of attacking the LOS and blitzing from the Star position as a freshman and some last season.


I didn’t say they didn’t blitz or attack at the LOS. I said they’re expected to come up and make plays in the box.

and you absolutely see OLB between the the tackles in traditional 4-3 defenses. especially against 12 or 21

we see waaaaaaaay less of it in college because spread offenses rarely go bigger than 11.

which is why Will is almost dead in the college game
Posted by sparkyj15
Houma,LA
Member since Jan 2007
179 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:17 pm to
It’s basically the old strong safety position
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:17 pm to
There’s no difference between the old will and the Star.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:24 pm to
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There’s no difference between the old will and the Star.


Is a nickel CB also a Will Linebacker?

There are no differences besides the differences.





This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:25 pm to
Again just go watch the games and you’ll see exactly what I’m saying in 100%. I can’t sit here and take you through things you don’t know and are unwilling to learn so go see for yourself.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:27 pm to
It’s like explaining football to a child. They have the same responsibility, they’re just typically matched up with different types of players and formations. The reason they use hybrid types now is because of substitution issues hurry up offenses present.
This post was edited on 8/7/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:29 pm to
you’re just saying something over and over and not actually making any counter points.

which is classic you
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:31 pm to
No, I’ve been clear, you’re just throwing a tantrum
Posted by brettamedee
Locust Grove, Georgia
Member since Jul 2013
391 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:33 pm to
In college football, the "Star" position is a hybrid defensive role, often found in a 4-2-5 base defense. It combines aspects of a safety and an outside linebacker, allowing the player to cover slot receivers, blitz, and defend the run. Essentially, the Star is a versatile defensive back who can play a variety of roles depending on the offensive formation.

Here's a more detailed explanation:

Hybrid Role:

The Star is a versatile position that blends the skillsets of a safety and an outside linebacker.

Defensive Alignment:

It's a key component in a 4-2-5 defense, which uses four down linemen, two linebackers, and five defensive backs.

Responsibilities:

Star players are tasked with covering slot receivers, blitzing, defending the run, and generally acting as a playmaker in the defensive scheme.

Coverage:

They need to be adept at both man and zone coverage, particularly against slot receivers and tight ends.

Run Support:

They must also be strong and willing to tackle in run support, acting like a modern-day outside linebacker.

Physicality and Athleticism:

The Star position demands a blend of physicality and athleticism to handle a variety of offensive players and situations.

Origin:

The Star position gained prominence with coaches like Nick Saban, who used it to counter spread offenses and maximize defensive flexibility.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
26753 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

It’s a Drop Linebacker from Tep’s best-selling novel.
I made Dhillip read that before he called into the TigerDroppings radio show back in the day...
Posted by shoestring
Member since Nov 2012
349 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:43 pm to
Wouldn't it create a 4-2-5 in your scenario?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:49 pm to
Go watch Burns in the Ole
miss Game.

tell me that’s “just an old WOLB”

Again, is a nickel just a small fast olb?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:52 pm to
You don’t understand anything about football so you can go see for yourself. You can come back here and lie about it to me if you want to stroke your ego but it doesn’t change the fact.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78168 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:55 pm to
quote:

You don’t understand anything about football so you can go see for yourself. You can come back here and lie about it to me if you want to stroke your ego but it doesn’t change the fact.


This is what you do. Run your mouth. Provide 0 substance, and then call other people liars.

A Star is a OLB if you ignore all the times we ask them to be a safety.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66095 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:58 pm to
Which is never so again you prove your ignorance.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41273 posts
Posted on 8/7/25 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

tional linebackers, creating a 3-3-5 formation (three linemen, three linebackers, five defensive backs).


Don’t you mean lineman?
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