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re: Collis Temple and LSU basketball
Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:48 am to TexasTiger08
Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:48 am to TexasTiger08
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Well then let's go with the truth...the in state talent has been pretty poor lately.
That still isn't an excuse for what he has done. It would be a valid excuse for us to be mediocre. There is no excusing this level of suck, though. He has done a piss poor job of evaluation and recruiting. I'm glad he sucks "the right way," though.
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Posted on 3/10/11 at 7:50 am to The Cable Guy
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I know that year Bridgewater was out the whole year or most of it. I thought CT3 was out most as well or was that the following season?
We were demolished by injuries that 2000-2001 year if my memory serves correct.
I think that was the year that Collis blew out his knee. Was Torris mining ice chests at that point?
Posted on 3/10/11 at 10:02 pm to Klingler7
He will get 3 pathetic suck years in a row before he is gone. Why? Because our AD, Alleva, will not want to admit he fricked up on his only hire at LSU.
BTW - if Miles went 4-8 for 2 years in football and only got 1, maybe 2, conference wins, how many years would he get? Probably not 3 and he actually won a BSCNC during his tenure.
BTW - if Miles went 4-8 for 2 years in football and only got 1, maybe 2, conference wins, how many years would he get? Probably not 3 and he actually won a BSCNC during his tenure.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 3:36 am to Bubba Hotep
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Langston Galloway? Give me a break.
Huh? Kid was all freshman team in the A-10! Averaged close to 13 ppg and almost 6 rebounds and about 3 or 4 assists. Kid is better than any LSU Freshman. And for you to say he isn't better than Ralston Turner, you must be drunk. Look at the Louisiana kids from 2010. J-Jay Thomas, better than Jalen Courtney and proved it at ULL, Chip Armelin, better than Derenbecker. Markel Brown better than Stringer, Galloway is alot better than Turner. These kids are tougher, better defenders, better athletes, better scorers and better all around players. Your recent rants on the kids from Louisiana and the stuff about Brian Williams are all terrible assessments. Williams redshirted so they can develop his perimeter game. He will get 25 minutes next year at Ok. State. He is better than Derenbecker as well. All these posts about comparisons you all have been doing are terrible. Sure, the A-10 isn't better than the SEC, but St. Joe's is better than LSU.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 3:41 am to UNC
who said this about 3 months ago:
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Well I am personally shocked with how well Turner and Stringer have played so far and with the addition of O'Bryant next year that will give them 3 really good players with O'Bryant being a stud. Next year's team could be really good if LSU keeps Trent around. I have been talking with coach Scott lately and he is still recruiting 2011. So don't be surprised if they pull of a few late signees. Derenbecker will be good over time.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 3:41 am to UNC
I agree that all of these kids could have helped LSU.
I'll admit, I wasn't exactly sure how well Langston would do this year at St. Joe's. I always knew how great he was. I remember him dropping 30 on my 6th grade team when he was a year younger than all of us.
But I wasn't sure how he'd make the jump to D1 basketball. He's certainly proved me wrong though. It's great to see yet another former high school star from Louisiana doing great things in college basketball. I know St. Joe's struggled this year, so hopefully they can get some good players around Langston in the next few years so he can have a chance to play on a tournament team while he is there.
I'll admit, I wasn't exactly sure how well Langston would do this year at St. Joe's. I always knew how great he was. I remember him dropping 30 on my 6th grade team when he was a year younger than all of us.
But I wasn't sure how he'd make the jump to D1 basketball. He's certainly proved me wrong though. It's great to see yet another former high school star from Louisiana doing great things in college basketball. I know St. Joe's struggled this year, so hopefully they can get some good players around Langston in the next few years so he can have a chance to play on a tournament team while he is there.
Posted on 3/12/11 at 7:57 am to Jester
Exactly- the guy has dumped to seasons of 20 losses in a row.
Nothing short of manure especially for someone getting paid 1.5 million a year.
Nothing short of manure especially for someone getting paid 1.5 million a year.
Posted on 3/13/11 at 12:02 am to UNC
St. Joe's almost had Dayton today. Would have gotten them into the final of their tournament. Would have been great to see Langston in the NCAA this year.
Top Performers
Saint Joseph's: L. Galloway 16 Pts, 9 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stls
And he played 39 minutes.
Top Performers
Saint Joseph's: L. Galloway 16 Pts, 9 Reb, 3 Ast, 3 Stls
And he played 39 minutes.
This post was edited on 3/13/11 at 12:03 am
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:54 am to Lester Earl
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who said this about 3 months ago:
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Well I am personally shocked with how well Turner and Stringer have played so far and with the addition of O'Bryant next year that will give them 3 really good players with O'Bryant being a stud. Next year's team could be really good if LSU keeps Trent around. I have been talking with coach Scott lately and he is still recruiting 2011. So don't be surprised if they pull of a few late signees. Derenbecker will be good over time.
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Yes I said that, but as the season kept on going these freshman didn't get better where as Markel, Lang and J-Jay did and proved with their numbers. Markel started for OK. State as well at times and is in the post-season. Just because I said that doesn't mean I said they were better than these other kids. This other group has proved it, what have LSU's kids done? Sure Turner was all-rookie team but other than that they all did little with a few good games. I stand by my words of them getting better over time but right now, they aren't better. That simple. With Johnny coming in and the iowa state kid next year plus this group returning, LSU should win some games, but they still need a lot better player at the PG spot. They need a dominant PG to get them over the hump. When they get it, they will be fine. If Trent gets the time he needs LSU will win. I was with Coach Scott Saturday at the Top 28 and I am sure he will get it done. He is one of the best recruiters in the country. Proven with the addition of O'Bryant. Also, Donny G is doing well recruiting too. Whoever Trent has them go get, they do. They just need to go get a dominant PG. It may come with Javan Felix, but who knows.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 8:27 am to UNC
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They need a dominant PG to get them over the hump. When they get it, they will be fine.
Not even a dominant PG. A guy who can handle, make passes, make FT's, and hit an open 3. That's it. They don't need a Nolan Smith. Sure, it would help, but even a 6-8pt, 5-7 assist guy, 1-2 TO's tops, 80%+ FT, 35%+ 3P shooter would be clutch. Somebody who can get 15 or 20 if necessary but is better at creating for others and can contain the other team's PG. I can't recall LSU ever having that. I imagine Garrett was the closest, but he was never a stone-cold shooter.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 8:29 am to UNC
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Huh? Kid was all freshman team in the A-10! Averaged close to 13 ppg and almost 6 rebounds and about 3 or 4 assists. Kid is better than any LSU Freshman. And for you to say he isn't better than Ralston Turner, you must be drunk. Look at the Louisiana kids from 2010. J-Jay Thomas, better than Jalen Courtney and proved it at ULL, Chip Armelin, better than Derenbecker. Markel Brown better than Stringer, Galloway is alot better than Turner. These kids are tougher, better defenders, better athletes, better scorers and better all around players
That's the key man. I've played with most of these guys, and I can tell you, I'd rather go up against Derenbecker any day than Armelin or Galloway. Those kids are hard-nosed, tough sons of bitches. I like Derenbecker. He's a solid kid. He'll do LSU well as a role player. But he can't guard his own shadow, and he can't put it on the floor.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 10:10 am to Stewie Griffin
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That's the key man. I've played with most of these guys, and I can tell you, I'd rather go up against Derenbecker any day than Armelin or Galloway. Those kids are hard-nosed, tough sons of bitches. I like Derenbecker. He's a solid kid. He'll do LSU well as a role player. But he can't guard his own shadow, and he can't put it on the floor.
There is no doubt Derenbecker struggles defensively and a guy like Markel Brown has him in that very importance facet. But Matt is more of a natural 3 once he fills out a bit, and Brown is a 2. Their offensive numbers are virtually identical. The only difference is Matt shoots better from outside.
But I'm failing to see this distinction on offense that everyone on here seems is evident.
UNC has been absent for the better part of this season, but now he's going to show up and tell everyone about Galloway again? I'm happy Galloway is doing well. He probably could have helped LSU this year. But I'm still very happy with Turner, regardless of his paltry final two outings.
And the SEC may be a poor conference but it's better than the A-10 and that's not really disputed.
Again, for the hundredth time, how many 2 guards can an LSU team have? Unfortunately we aren't going to go back in time, not sign Dotson, and save a ship to sign Galloway. If you could give me that trade right now I would take it but that's not how it works. I hope Isaac can present us with better perimeter defense and some athleticism, which we lack.
This post was edited on 3/15/11 at 10:12 am
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:01 pm to Tiger Authority
Has little to do with Galloway, and more so to do with people saying the kid can't play isn't better or as good as the LSU kids which is crazy.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:41 pm to UNC
First of all, at best it is a toss up between the two. I would take Turner every time and I have seen Galloway play several times this year. Saying one is better than the other does not mean Galloway is not a good player.
My whole point of the comment, however, was that LSU was not going to sign Galloway, Turner, Derenbecker, Markel Brown and Brian Williams. Regardless of which combination of the two that they signed, it is doubtful that LSU's season would have turned out any different. Shooting guard was not LSU's problem this season.
My whole point of the comment, however, was that LSU was not going to sign Galloway, Turner, Derenbecker, Markel Brown and Brian Williams. Regardless of which combination of the two that they signed, it is doubtful that LSU's season would have turned out any different. Shooting guard was not LSU's problem this season.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:45 pm to Tiger Authority
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Again, for the hundredth time, how many 2 guards can an LSU team have?
would you rather have Galloway or Jalen Courtney?
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:53 pm to Lester Earl
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would you rather have Galloway or Jalen Courtney?
You think Galloway can play the 3?
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:53 pm to Tiger Authority
are people insinuating the atlantic10 is better than the SEC and we lost galloway to a superior program?
Posted on 3/15/11 at 2:55 pm to Tiger Authority
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would you rather have Galloway or Jalen Courtney?
I appears that Courtney can not play the 3 or 4 very well.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 3:14 pm to Lester Earl
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would you rather have Galloway or Jalen Courtney?
I would definitely rather have Galloway, but they don't play the same position so that's a fake choice. I would rather have Galloway than several other people on the roster, but that is a silly road to go down. Also, they both just completed their freshman seasons. Lots can happen in four years.
Johnny O'Bryant has said that his friendship with Courtney and Stringer is why he considered LSU, so don't leave that part out of your equation. Perhaps LSU wanted to make inroads into Mississippi.
Posted on 3/15/11 at 3:14 pm to Tiger Authority
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You think Galloway can play the 3?
no, but Turner could.
who would you rather as a player? Galloway or Courtney
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