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re: College Football News article gives Jarrett Lee props!
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:07 pm to CptBengal
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:07 pm to CptBengal
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So that's why over the last three games he's been lights out? With over the last three games he’s completed 34-of-47 passes (72%) with six touchdowns and no picks.
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Because he panics under pressure?
He definitely will not hold the ball longer than necessary.
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Careful, your agenda is showing again.
You really have to make everything into a bash session don't you. Where did I say he isn't playing well? Where did I say it wasn't a strength? We are talking about why he doesn't get sacked correct?
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Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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JL gets rid of the ball. Most of the time it is on time when the receiver is open but if he detects the slightest pressure he gets rid of it.
JJ has been sacked 3 times but I can only remember one that was a pass play. Are you sure the other 2 weren't runs?
Any mistakes made with the stats are usually cleaned up after the game. The school's have asst. SIDs (or interns) that go over the post-game stats to make sure they are correct (Tennessee game for example). I'm sure if any of those plays that were counted as sacks were actual run plays they would have been reviewed. The two sacks counted in the Auburn game were, without a doubt, sacks. I don't remember the other one (earlier this season) off the top of my head, but like I said, I'm pretty sure that something like that would be corrected if it was a mistake.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:14 pm to Topwater Trout
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He definitely will not hold the ball longer than necessary.
why would you hold the ball longer than necessary?
wtf kind of logic is that?
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have to make everything into a bash session don't you.
what bash session? I'm commenting on JL's stellar play. YOU are the one bashing a player.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:15 pm to HoustonRes
Thanks I was just curious. JJ definitely hesitates more than JL.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:22 pm to CptBengal
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what bash session? I'm commenting on JL's stellar play. YOU are the one bashing a player.
In all fairness, I read the reply as more of a complement for Lee because he's able to either make the pass or throw it away instead of taking a loss. That's what I would want my QB to do. If I call a pass I either want a completion, or a incompletion...no sacks and no picks.
I don't remember a LSU team that has had so few sacks with only 1 pick this far into the season. Ever.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:24 pm to CptBengal
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why would you hold the ball longer than necessary?
wtf kind of logic is that?
Well obviously you have never played QB or football. Sometimes the receivers are covered when the ball is suppose to be thrown(or on time). JL usually will NEVER extend a play when this happens and will either get rid of the ball or force it when the receiver is still not open. If you do not see this then you really have no clue what you are watching on saturdays.
Less sacks when a QB plays this way....do you disagree?
Also I said JJ holds on to the ball too long. Do I have an agenda by saying that?
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:39 pm to Topwater Trout
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Well obviously you have never played QB or football.
if you hold the ball longer than NECESSARY (which btw, look up the definition of) you have done something wrong.
Extending the play for no other reason than to extend the play is assanine.
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JL usually will NEVER extend a play when this happens and will either get rid of the ball or force it when the receiver is still not open.
he has over a 70% completion rate the last three games and is #12 in the country in efficiency and you're upset he doesn't hold the ball LONGER THAN NECESSARY.
Are you retarded or something?
Posted on 10/27/11 at 1:55 pm to CptBengal
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if you hold the ball longer than NECESSARY (which btw, look up the definition of) you have done something wrong.
Ok then sometimes he gets rid of the ball before he needs to....is that better? If he isn't being pressured why not give the wr's another second to maybe get open?
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he has over a 70% completion rate the last three games and is #12 in the country in efficiency and you're upset he doesn't hold the ball LONGER THAN NECESSARY
I said he doesn't get sacked b/c he gets rid of the ball whether there is or isn't pressure on him. That is a fact.
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Extending the play for no other reason than to extend the play is assanine.
QB's extend plays to allow unopened wr's to get open. Maybe you have never noticed but sometimes the db's have the wr's covered.....and here is your lesson for the day the longer they have to stay with a wr the less likely they can keep the wr covered. It happens many times on games all over the nation....it isn't rare.
FYI last year when JL completed the huge 3rd down against bama sealing victory he extended the play. Guess according to your dumb arse logic he should have thrown it away rather than extending the play?
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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Ok then sometimes he gets rid of the ball before he needs to....is that better? If he isn't being pressured why not give the wr's another second to maybe get open?
He is the 12th best in the country in QB efficiency. WTF man, seriously.
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QB's extend plays to allow unopened wr's to get open. Maybe you have never noticed but sometimes the db's have the wr's covered....
His last 3 games he has completed over 70% of his passes. Of that 30% that haven't how many would have been completed had he "extended the play"?
What is the chance of injury of running around to "extend the play".
Oh and in case you didn't know it is much harder for O-Lineman to block when the QB is constantly breaking the pocket. This isn't a damn video game.
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FYI last year when JL completed the huge 3rd down against bama sealing victory he extended the play.
He did it against Auburn last week. WTF is your problem? You are always TRYING to find something to bash JL about.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:23 pm to CptBengal
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He did it against Auburn last week.
When?
I said JJ holds onto the ball too long but you don't acknowledge that.
For the last time JL gets rid of the ball too quick to get sacked. And you need to quit talking shite b/c JL's biggest test comes Nov. 5th. People who know football know this but you probably don't. Will he be able to stand in the face of a rush and throw the ball accurately? Hasn't really been his strength so far this season has it? Saban will make his priority to hit JL and hit him often especially since he will not move in the pocket.
I sure as hell hope he does complete 70% of his passes against bama but I will be happy if he completes above 50%.
You want to give your assesment of how he will do and we can compare notes Nov. 6th?
This post was edited on 10/27/11 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:25 pm to Utah Tiger
Props to him and feel he was slighted not making O'brien cut.
He's traveled a hard road.
He's traveled a hard road.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:35 pm to Bayou
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JJ was pathetic
4 posts into a praise JL thread is all it takes for someone to change the thread into a JJ-bashing thread
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:39 pm to Topwater Trout
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Saban will make his priority to hit JL and hit him often especially since he will not move in the pocket.
Wrong.
Saban will def stop the run first and make LSU pass it. Similar game plan to last year's plan. No matter how good JL has been, they will stop the run first. Why? because Miles never stops running!!!
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:39 pm to Topwater Trout
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I said JJ holds onto the ball too long but you don't acknowledge that.
what is the thread title you blithering tart?
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For the last time JL gets rid of the ball too quick to get sacked.
that's a good thing, are you drunk or something?
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And you need to quit talking shite b/c JL's biggest test comes Nov. 5th. People who know football know this but you probably don't.
I heard you clowns before Oregon talking shite, then talking shite after MooState, then about how UF and Auburn would route him...now it's bama.
Why the hate, the kid is playing well and the tigers are winning. You clowns call yourselves tiger fans...anything but.
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Saban will make his priority to hit JL and hit him often especially since he will not move in the pocket.
Then it's a damn good thing our O-line is stout and he gets rid of the ball quick, don't you think?
Or would you rather him hold the ball "longer than necessary"?
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You want to give your assessment of how he will do and we can compare notes Nov. 6th?
I want him to compete within the gameplan the coaches have laid out. Hopefully he completes 100% of his pass attempts.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:44 pm to Utah Tiger
I knew he had the potential. We all did. Rarely do you see the kind of success he had against stiff Texas 5-A high school football with a cannon of a arm and a coach's son and just bust in college. He just needed the right coach(krags) and time to develop. I think he will end up being our MVP at the end of the year and I can't think of a more deserving player since I have followed LSU football. 8 out of 10 kids would've transferred after that 08 season, but he has stayed the course and it is truly an amazing story and testiment to his character, work ethic, and talent. 
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:45 pm to CptBengal
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Why the hate, the kid is playing well and the tigers are winning.
Find one example that shows I hate JL. He throws the ball when there is no pressure on him is not hating on him.
I guess when pro scouts start critiqing him and saying he throws off his back foot, doesn't move well in the pocket, and sometimes gives up on plays too soon will mean they hate him? Don't be such a pussy. No one is immune to criticism. You hate JJ. So quit acting like you're a loyal tiger fan dumb arse.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:48 pm to Utah Tiger
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a smart game-manager
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:48 pm to Larson
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testiment to his character, work ethic, and talent
and most of all perseverance - the opposite of most of us...
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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He throws the ball when there is no pressure on him is not hating on him.
He throws the ball when he has a chance to complete the pass. You don't wait until pressure arrives?
Seriously, your complaint is that he throws the ball with a high completion to our receivers in a timely manner.
WTF else do you call that but hate?
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when pro scouts start critiqing him and saying he throws off his back foot,
you too missed Peyton's explanation.....tsk tsk
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doesn't move well in the pocket,
you're insane. He has good pocket presence, hence why the O-line looks so good, they know where he is going to be.
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and sometimes gives up on plays too soon
wow, you're just reaching here.....this hate and bashing has got to stop, it's unhealthy.
You call yourself a fan yet your complaints are that he is completing passes and not getting sacked, and NOT holding the ball too long.
THOSE ARE YOUR frickING COMPLAINTS...and you're not hating?
dear god man.
Posted on 10/27/11 at 3:55 pm to CptBengal
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and sometimes gives up on plays too soon
I think JL at times gives up on plays too soon also.
Esepec on third down.
In his defense he more than likey has been coached to throw it away if his guy isnt open.
I noticed it 3-4 times vs uk.
Anxiuous to see how he does in the clutch vs alabama if we need a big 3rd down and his 1st and 2nd guy arent open.
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