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re: Coach Orgeron through 3 years at LSU as head coach

Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:52 am to
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:52 am to
Hey lil buddy, I got to work.

In 2018, the lsu offense scored 165 points in regulation league play, which includes the goose egg against bama, and doesn't include a&m, which obviously went to overtime.

In 2018, the a&m offense scored 162 points in regulation league play, which doesn't include lsu.

Drops the mic.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:52 am to
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Lmao at you thinking what you say about someone matters in the slightest. You’re a lying scumbag, in top of that you start shite with people for no reason, sometimes people you’ve never seen before, then when people witness your disgusting behavior and call you on it you play victim. You’re a despicable human being, the absolute worst of the worst here.


FWIW, this may be a little overboard.

That said, I agree with your take on Ben not being an honest broker here. Months ago he attempted to claim something that was easily verifiable had he just gone back and found a handful of links to prove his claim...but he refused. He was willing to simply make accusations without any evidence, and when I called him on it he balked.

Told him at the time that I'd no longer engage him, and I haven't. I feel for what the guy is going through personally...I really do, and I hope the best for him...but I have no obligation to attempt to have a conversation with anyone that does not abide by the simple rules of fair play here. After Roger's act with me yesterday, he's next to be ignored. Just not worth it.

That's actually a pretty big deal for me here. I have no issue with being proven wrong and will happily apologize if I am. I'm not going to make up things to win a point, and I'll never knowingly accuse anyone of having said something that I can't quote them on. And...I expect others to behave the same way, because if there aren't those types of basic rules here, then we'd be better served writing posts on a fricking post-it note and flushing them down the toilet.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66644 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:53 am to
Either your numbers are incorrect or you’re comparing two different stats. What you’re doing is misleading.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:55 am to
Kinda like me being called a liar by madking, only to be proven correct. I have no reason to lie on stats, as they can be easily checked.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66644 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:56 am to
lmfao you can pick that mic back up because what you just did was a steaming pile of bullshite. You used a win by ATM to punish them by creating your own stat column where it would be the only place LSU could outscore ATM. You’re a fricking disgrace and a joke
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:57 am to
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Months ago he attempted to claim something that was easily verifiable had he just gone back and found a handful of links to prove his claim...but he refused. He was willing to simply make accusations without any evidence, and when I called him on it he balked.

Seems like anyone who posts on here with any kind of regularity has done this. I know I have. His baseline emotion on here is anger but when you point out his lying and present proof of said lying he gets BIG MAD.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66644 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:58 am to
lmao my god you’re pathetic, you and Ben deserve each other. The two biggest liars to ever infect this place.. drive safe pussy
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:58 am to
As far as O goes, I've said several times, if he goes 9-3 this year, time for him to go. I wouldn't call that o worshiping. I'd call it I'm excited about the direction, but don't slip up.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 9:59 am to
What about when you are accused of lying, and provide proof that you weren't lying, and the poster does not acknowledge he was wrong, but rather, attacks you even more?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:00 am to
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feel for what the guy is going through personally...I really do, and I hope the best for him



I don't want nor have I asked for your sympathy or feelings or whatever you want to call it. I've never knowingly been dishonest on this board. I also have no problem admitting that I'm wrong. I don't remember the incident that you're talking about so it must've not made much of an impression.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14762 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:02 am to
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Why would you take out punt returns in regulation?


Because defensive and special teams TDs should not be attributable to offensive production.

Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:02 am to
Don't worry about them Ben. It's obvious to me you are genuine and have the best interest of lsu. Most of these guys are legit trolls/losers. Think about it, their life revolves around putting a coach down, and also anyone that doesn't agree with them.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:02 am to
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Either your numbers are incorrect or you’re comparing two different stats. What you’re doing is misleading



I don't know what's confusing about point totals. I guess it shouldn't surprise me that you can't understand it. You're not known for intelligence.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:03 am to
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So it's ok to bash the coaches and program, but DO NOT sign up and be positive.


No. In fact, on the VERY rare occasion that there have been obvious new posters show up who have behaved as I've described...overly aggressive but bashing Orgeron...essentially the exact opposite of guys like you, Ree, etc...I have called them out. I actually made a point months ago that it was odd that there had not been mirror images showing up simply to refute alters or shills like you...and then suddenly some did! Most have vanished...but when they showed up I and others pointed them out.

quote:

If I came in bashing O, like damone, you wouldn't say a word, and that's a fact.


I have...that's your problem here. And Damone's been here for years...he's got a verifiable track record.

quote:

Fact is, it annoys you that people are happy and have a positive outlook.


Congrats...three wrong assertions in one post! It's a hat trick!

No...for years I was called a Polly Anna and an apologist on this board. I have no history of being a negative poster at all. what I have been since the hiring of Ed Orgeron is critical. I hold him accountable for what LSU fans wanted to hold the previous coach accountable for. To do otherwise seems like a double standard to me. If 10 wins was not enough for Les Miles, than it can;t be enough for Orgeron. If winning a lot and high end of season rankings were not enough without hardware under Miles, than it can not be enough for Orgeron.

Problem is, the goal posts have been moved and the once lofty expectations for the former coach are now too much to ask of the current one. And anyone that dares attempt to hold him to those same standards is deemed "negative."

It would be hilarious if it was about something I cared significantly less about.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:05 am to
The simple fact is that he is incapable of admitting he was wrong. Just like him accusing me of lying and I proved him wrong. Instead of accepting/apology, he doubles down on bashing/ignorance. Even his fellow negative posters see it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:05 am to
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eems like anyone who posts on here with any kind of regularity has done this. I know I have. His baseline emotion on here is anger but when you point out his lying and present proof of said lying he gets BIG MAD




Please post some examples of me knowingly lying. I have to tell you it's one of the things that bother me and I'd like to see some examples.
Posted by AlxPin
Member since Jun 2019
462 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:10 am to
And yet, I'm not pro O, as I pointed out. If he doesn't win, move on. He DID lead the team to a #6 ranking last year, and expectations are sky high this year. Whether you want to agree with that or not, it is fact. I'm not so much an O pumper, as I am against people who have an agenda to tear down the program/coach. It's sickening the negative trolls on here. If he wins, he will be rewarded. If he loses, he will be fired. That simple.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:11 am to
You don't remember when you helped push the totally unfounded narrative about Kelvin Joseph being arrested with guns and drugs on multiple occasions? You vehemently denied doing so, I posted a link to your post where you did just that, and then you melted uncontrollably.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:12 am to
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he simple fact is that he is incapable of admitting he was wrong. Just like him accusing me of lying and I proved him wrong. Instead of accepting/apology, he doubles down on bashing/ignorance. Even his fellow negative posters see it



He's easily the worst poster on this board.

And the other poster geaux whatever his name is. is a despicable motherfricker. Anyone that starts off a post by saying how much they feel for me then starts listing the reasons why I'm a bad person is a huge piece of shite.

Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/3/19 at 10:13 am to
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ou don't remember when you helped push the totally unfounded narrative about Kelvin Joseph being arrested with guns and drugs on multiple occasions? You vehemently denied doing so, I posted a link to your post where you did just that, and then you melted uncontrollably




Now you are lying. You're misrepresenting what I did and I'm not rehashing it and I never lied about it. You are lying about it right now.
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