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re: Coach O Is Crushing It

Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:33 am to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:33 am to
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That could easily sum up all your posts in this thread.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:34 am to
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"Hyperbole....What is a method universally employed by retard NegaTigers on the Rant?" for $500, Alex.


It's cute you're defending your little buddy, but you lose all objectively if you can't see that Roger is clearly not using that term right there.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:35 am to
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Ah yes, the ole nega-stretch. Hyperbole everywhere..




That's your go-to, attack the messenger instead of the message.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:35 am to
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Actual production be damned



Burrow threw for 2900 yds you idiot.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:35 am to
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How many times have we had idiots on here blame Russell for the 2 losses on the road to Top 5 teams in 2006,


I've never seen JR blamed for those, it's always been Jimbo.

I share that sentiment.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298498 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:37 am to
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That's your go-to, attack the messenger instead of the message.


Well, maybe remedial reading is in store for you. Hyperbole refers to content.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108518 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:37 am to
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"Hyperbole....What is a method universally employed by retard NegaTigers on the Rant?" for $500, Alex.

Hyperbole is used by everyone on the board. It's not exclusive to one group or another.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52092 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:37 am to
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Burrow threw for 2900 yds you idiot.


Which is, by definition, average.

Don't shoot the messenger because you don't like the facts ben.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298498 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:38 am to
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Which is, by definition, average.


What would you call 2100 yards?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:41 am to
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I've never seen JR blamed for those, it's always been Jimbo.


I can't address what you have or have not seen, but to suggest that race has not and does not still play a role in these things is just being obtuse.

Again...if you'd like, I'll be happy to go start a thread specifically asking about Russell and Flynn to illustrate this point if you need it done. I wish most people did as you said, and saw only P&G, but we both know that is not the case, and anyone that's spent any time in Tiger Stadium can attest to hearing racial epithets tossed at our own players from time to time when they don't perform as ell as they could.

there are some players that transcend that, no doubt. and others who do not. Russell, long before he tanked in the NFL and with Flynn in the wings, never got that benefit from our own fans.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:42 am to
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but to suggest that race has not and does not still play a role


Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:44 am to
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Hyperbole is used by everyone on the board. It's not exclusive to one group or another.




Roger would disagree.

But I understand. Some folks need to group people into convenient categories so that their minds can comprehend the world.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108518 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:45 am to
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anyone that's spent any time in Tiger Stadium can attest to hearing racial epithets tossed at our own players from time to time when they don't perform as ell as they could.

I honestly don't recall ever hearing any of this. My memory isn't the best anymore though and most of my time in TS was spent when I was completely wasted. I take your word for it if you've heard it though.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298498 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:45 am to
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Roger would disagree.


Actually, I agree. King Hyperbole

It's just a particular hallmark of yours and a couple others who continually look at the extremes in everything.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108518 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 9:50 am to
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a couple others who continually look at the extremes in everything.

Another one that goes for both groups. One side says the other never criticizes anything the coach does while the other says people hate the coach and/or want him to fail. There's so much in between and that's where the good discussion is. It's just too bad we don't have more conversation in those areas instead of on the fringe of the extremes.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 10:01 am to
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Another one that goes for both groups. One side says the other never criticizes anything the coach does while the other says people hate the coach and/or want him to fail. There's so much in between and that's where the good discussion is. It's just too bad we don't have more conversation in those areas instead of on the fringe of the extremes.



Yet when it comes to checking the extremists on the other side, he says he doesn't read their posts. I find that very interesting.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 10:02 am to
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I honestly don't recall ever hearing any of this. My memory isn't the best anymore though and most of my time in TS was spent when I was completely wasted. I take your word for it if you've heard it though.


I really don't want to derail this scintillating thread ( ) but in my section in the EU since I've had my tickets since 2001, I have heard this yelled at Russell, Randall, Jefferon, Jennings and Harris. The only two black QB's who did not catch this were Rohan, who again WAS universally loved by 2001 and Perriloux, who was only coming in for situational work and was not in danger of taking Flynn's job. And this is just QB's...

This doesn't take into account conversations outside of Tiger Stadium, or away from game day with "fans."

Look...there's is nothing great about saying this OTHER THAN maybe shining some light on this behavior in an attempt to get it to fricking stop. But when you've got some fans, not you by the way, who will simply wave their hand at the suggestion that anyone would be racist in South Louisiana there is really no way to move forward.

Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 10:06 am to
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Miles had run the program down to the point that winning 10 games was the highest possible achievement. Orgeron "appears" to have moved the team into a position that 10 wins is the norm.

Miles was recruiting the easy players - Louisiana talent and skill players who wanted to be at DBU - and letting our offensive and defensive line talent languish. Orgeron is killing himself trying to fill the gaps until he can get recruiting back to where it should be. His first real class was ranked about 15th, but it was well balanced. His second class was ranked 5th but he had a huge shortcoming at defensive back. His third class is currently ranked number one.

His season records have been 8-4, 9-4, 10-3. Both his recruiting and his actual records point to improvement. Miles' last years were 10-3, 8-4, 9-3 (three really bad embarrassing losses), and 2-2 when he was finally fired. And Miles' classes, while ranked fairly high, left whole position groups neglected.

Orgeron's first three years look a lot better than Miles' last three. I'm one of the few on here who remember that you were actually in favor of Miles being fired at the end. You often are unjustly accused of being a Miles defender when you are actually just stating your opinion that Ed Orgeron gets credited for doing what got Miles fired. I just don't agree that the positive trajectory under Orgeron is the same as the slightly negative trajectory under Miles. And it's my opinion that Miles' trajectory was about to get a lot worse. That 2-2 was ugly, and the negativism around the program was going to be hard to overcome.

I don't think Orgeron is a better coach than Miles. I don't think he's even as good as far as ability goes. But Orgeron is working hard. Miles was on cruise control. Big time SEC football is no place for a coach who is complacent. Orgeron hasn't proven himself yet, but he's proven a lot of us wrong. I thought he would be a disastrous coach. He's turned out at least OK. Let's see where he goes from here. I sure am excited about the 2019 recruiting class, and I think he might dethrone Alabama with his 2020 class. Can he do it on the field?



O lost 2 games he shouldn't won 2 games he shouldn't had a poor offense, and did not prove he could clearly and consistently beat top teams every week, which is the only way he's going to ever compete for a championship.

It was very much a Miles season.
This post was edited on 2/21/19 at 10:07 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
298498 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 10:06 am to
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he says he doesn't read their posts


Wrong again. I don't read every post.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89099 posts
Posted on 2/21/19 at 10:07 am to
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I don't read every post.


Yes you do.
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