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re: Coach O is a genius for getting JOE BURROW from Ohio State.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:26 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:26 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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E went out and got the X'x & O's talent needed. THAT is why he was a GREAT hire.
That's not his job. HIS job is to run the offense, not find someone to run the offense.
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Most veteran coaches would never let a youngster install a new offense... then share the booth and headsets with the young guy. Damn few would do that.
Right, because generally people don't give underperfoming OCs a chance to hire someone to do their job.
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Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:28 pm to TigerLunatik
No worries.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:28 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Why are you obsessed with do-it-yourself projects? E brought in a specialist. In my world, that is the intelligent move to make.
Why re-invent the wheel. Brady has a PhD in this offense.
why can't you just admit that E was not capable of putting this offense together and that Brady did it?
You're already all but saying it.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:32 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Why are you obsessed with do-it-yourself projects? E brought in a specialist. In my world, that is the intelligent move to make.
the question is
why is bringing in E LAST YEAR a good move for O to make, if E needs to turn around in bring in a "specialist"
also how can you call Brady a "Specialist" when every aspect of our offense is better.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:36 pm to Todd O'Connor
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That's not his job. HIS job is to run the offense, not find someone to run the offense.
We have different outlooks. In business, I NEVER hesitated to pay for the best outside consultants I could find for new projects. Never regretted it. They always paid for themselves many times over.
The proof is in the pudding. That offense is a friggin' Swiss watch. Could either Brady or E achieved that alone. Hell no, IMO.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:39 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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We have different outlooks. In business, I NEVER hesitated to pay for the best outside consultants I could find for new projects. Never regretted it. They always paid for themselves many times over.
IN business if you found out one of your assistant managers was doing your managers job, how long would you keep that manager around?
Thats fine when the assistant manager is making assistant manager money. When you have to pay him manger money, the old manager becomes redundant
are redundancies good for your bottom line?
quote]The proof is in the pudding. That offense is a friggin' Swiss watch. Could either Brady or E achieved that alone. Hell no, IMO.[/quote]
Its opinion when it comes to Brady
Its fact when it comes to E.
I am not sure what you are basing the Brady opinion on.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:43 pm to Todd O'Connor
quote:So you DO think E is dispensable? Even though the work-product O&E and Brady have produced is the nation's highest scoring offense?
Its opinion when it comes to Brady
Its fact when it comes to E.
I am not sure what you are basing the Brady opinion on.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:47 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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So you DO think E is dispensable? Even though the work-product O&E and Brady have produced is the nation's highest scoring offense?
oh yeah
i definitely think that.
We don't have to fire him. But lets be real, Brady is running this offense.
Change in scheme
Change in strategy
Change in tendencies
Thats all coaching related
So what changed from last years staff?
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:53 pm to Todd O'Connor
quote:And you'd risk fricking the whole thing up just because you have a "feeling" that E may be featherbedding?
oh yeah
i definitely think that.
We don't have to fire him. But lets be real, Brady is running this offense.
It ain't broke. DON'T fix it!!
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:54 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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And you'd risk fricking the whole thing up just because you have a "feeling" that E may be featherbedding?
It ain't broke. DON'T fix it!!
Like i said we at this point there is no need to fire him
But anyone with a brain knows who is responsible for this offense being good.
I don't really know why you're knighting for a guy that handcuffed Joe Burrow last year. You are the #1 Burrow guy on this board.
This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:57 pm to Todd O'Connor
quote:Based on what?
But anyone with a brain knows who is responsible for this offense being good.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 1:58 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Based on what?
Last year and this year. The totally different scheme with completely different results. Quotes from all involved. What the hell else do you need?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:02 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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So you DO think E is dispensable? Even though the work-product O&E and Brady have produced is the nation's highest scoring offense?
Given the fact that we saw what Ensminger produced on his own last year with largely the same personnel, and we have a resume of average at best offenses he's installed and run versus the immediate and statistically undeniable impact the inclusion of Brady has made on the offense...Ensminger likely IS dispensable.
Now...do I want to fire Ensminger in favor of Brady if both are willing to continue this set-up next season? Of course not! But if you told me that one of them had to go for the 2020 season and I had to choose which one, you would not have to finish your sentence before I answered "We keep Brady."
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:03 pm to Todd O'Connor
This Spread/RPO is exactly the offense that E promised the Burrow's on their visit to BR. A full season to gear up for the current product does NOT seem unreasonable to me.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:03 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
Basical deduction and reasoning schools
E alone = shitty offense
E + Brady = AMAZING offense
that math aint hard to do.
E alone = shitty offense
E + Brady = AMAZING offense
that math aint hard to do.
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:04 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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A full season to gear up for the current product does NOT seem unreasonable to me.
What parts of last year's scheme geared us up for what we're doing now?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:04 pm to Todd O'Connor
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I don't really know why you're knighting for a guy that handcuffed Joe Burrow last year. You are the #1 Burrow guy on this board.
This is an interesting little twist, isn't it? Not to mention, Brady is the one that seemed to advocate for his pet project...MORE JUGGS REPS!!!
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:04 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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This Spread/RPO is exactly the offense that E promised the Burrow's on their visit to BR. A full season to gear up for the current product does NOT seem unreasonable to me.
So you think it is reasonable to run a shitty version of an offense?
Why
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:06 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Getting rid of Sullivan's antiquated scheme sure helped.
What parts of last year's scheme geared us up for what we're doing now?
Posted on 10/18/19 at 2:06 pm to LNCHBOX
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What parts of last year's scheme geared us up for what we're doing now?
Max protect and virtually no short crossing routes.
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