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re: Coach Mainieri's comments after the game
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:01 pm to moneyg
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:01 pm to moneyg
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That is very simplistic and shallow reasoning that doesn't necessarily support that playing for the tie gives you the best chance to win
Actually its not. Nothing simplistic about the reasoning at all.
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Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:02 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Sorry, but you're just plain wrong on that count. I noticed UCLA bunting and forgoing the hit and run all night. Might be because one has a higher success rate than the other.
Or because they bunt alot and have all year as a part of their philosophy. The only reason those bunts succeeded last night was because Ross kicked it around.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:03 pm to moneyg
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That is very simplistic and shallow reasoning that doesn't necessarily support that playing for the tie gives you the best chance to win.
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moneyg
Teams still do it. PM knows it that's why he said he gambled and lost.How many left hand catchers do you see? It's called playing the percentages.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:03 pm to dnm3305
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The only reason those bunts succeeded last night was because Ross kicked it around.
Yea, its called putting pressure on the defense. UCLA has a catcher with six months experience behind the plate.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:04 pm to UpToPar
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Yea, but that fact that he took it off should tell you that he was second guessing whether raph could get it down. There had to be someone on the bench that he was more comfortable with. I don't buy that he was gambling and playing for the win. I think he was unsure if raph could get the bunt down and figured he was going to get a 2-0 fastball and he had a better chance to either move katz or get a hit by swinging than he did to get a bunt down.
I disagree with this. I don't think it had anything to do with CPM second guessing Raphs abilities to bunt.
He just had an overwhelming amount of confidence that a good hitter was going to get a good pitch to hit and put the ball in play.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:05 pm to Holden Caulfield
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Did I say any such thing? If successfully executed the play greatly reduces the chance of a DP
Ok. I figured I misunderstood your statement. Please clarify.
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Sorry, but you're just plain wrong on that count. I noticed UCLA bunting and forgoing the hit and run all night. Might be because one has a higher success rate than the other.
Go ahead and use soft hitting UCLA as your proof. In truth, it is a 50/50 type of situation where a coach who needs to play small ball will do it more than a coach who doesn't need to play small ball.
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You can google Run Frequency and Run Expectancy and learn about it if you want.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:05 pm to dnm3305
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dnm3305
Have you ever played baseball. If so,what level. PM will tell you what I'm saying is correct.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:05 pm to LoveThatMoney
quote:I don't know your level of baseball knowledge but this is 100% true.
Anybody bitching about the hit and run with Rhymes doesn't know shite about baseball.
Also, those saying Rhymes didn't do his job are completely wrong.
There is no rule about H&R contact needing to be oppo. You're taught to hit the ball on the ground (hard if possible) regardless of where.
The pitcher was a dirty sinker baller.
The call was executed fine...UCLA executed better.
(hindsight is great)
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:06 pm to RATeamWannabe
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I don't think it had anything to do with CPM second guessing Raphs abilities to bunt.
It didn't
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He just had an overwhelming amount of confidence that a good hitter was going to get a good pitch to hit and put the ball in play.
Which anyone with baseball knowledge would have thought.
The decision back fired. Clearly, in hind sight it wasn't the best possible decision, but I don't get how anyone can't understand why it was called.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:07 pm to Bernie Moore
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Teams still do it. PM knows it that's why he said he gambled and lost.How many left hand catchers do you see? It's called playing the percentages.
He gambled, he lost, he admits it.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:07 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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There is no rule about H&R contact needing to be oppo. You're taught to hit the ball on the ground (hard if possible) regardless of where.
The pitcher was a dirty sinker baller.
This guy gets it.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:07 pm to Bernie Moore
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Teams still do it
Teams still decide to go the other way on a 50/50 type of decision? You don't say?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:07 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
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Billy Ray Valentine
Who taught you? RR should have moved ball to rt side of diamond.
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:08 pm to Billy Ray Valentine
If anything, its the bunts fault it was a DP, third baseman in, in anticipation of bunt, was the killer there 
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:08 pm to Holden Caulfield
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And how did you determine the 95% figur?. You been scouting UCLA pitchers all year?
Youre right, it was prlly more like 92.5%
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:08 pm to PurpleAndGold86
Agreed 
This post was edited on 6/17/13 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:09 pm to RATeamWannabe
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third baseman in, in anticipation of bunt, was the killer there
This is actually true. He was playing in closer than normal. If Rhymes hadn't been bunting on the first 2, he would have been back behind the bag and Katz would have easily been safe at second and we would have tied the game.
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:09 pm to PurpleAndGold86
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There is no rule about H&R contact needing to be oppo. You're taught to hit the ball on the ground (hard if possible) regardless of where. The pitcher was a dirty sinker baller.
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PurpleAndGold86
Who teaches that? Who taught you?
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:10 pm to PurpleAndGold86
ITS THE BUNTS FAULT
Posted on 6/17/13 at 5:11 pm to RATeamWannabe
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ITS THE BUNTS FAULT
This has been the theme all year anyway. Everyone has complained about the bunt all year. Just keep blaming it.
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