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re: Coach Mainieri says LSU fans will hate the new "dead" bats
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:03 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:03 pm to Kim Jong Ir
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It is not because of the bats though. It is because of the huge salaries, free agency, etc and all that goes with that stuff.
well, sure
but a lot of people are drawn to the excitement of college baseball. every game is important, you can sit through a midweek game against a-hole tech because you dont know what youre going to see, and the bats have something to do with that...rarely can you say a game is over in the 6th inning or so
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Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:05 pm to tigerskin
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teams just putting together a bunch of fat kids hitting glorified pop ups for home runs.
because that what college baseball is ALL about...
go back to dodging linedrives from 10 year olds
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:06 pm to DBG
Nice comment smartass. I would wear your arse out in baseball.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:07 pm to Kim Jong Ir
quote:
Did YOU know that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls?
I really don't think this is true.
Regardless, tackle football is pretty dangerous. Kids get paralyzed and suffer concussions. Should we outlaw it and only play flag football?
If you're this concerned about always doing the safest thing possible then maybe sports just aren't for you.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:07 pm to tigerskin
neat, anything else to add, tigerskin?
if not, youre free to move on to another thread
if not, youre free to move on to another thread
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:07 pm to LSURussian
Way to take one of the only fun thing about baseball put of the game 
are you fricking serious? I won't be able to watch any games other than LSU this year
1) how long do you guys think this will last?
2) what is the reasoning behind this?
are you fricking serious? I won't be able to watch any games other than LSU this year 1) how long do you guys think this will last?
2) what is the reasoning behind this?
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:08 pm to DBG
I thought so.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:09 pm to Okra
quote:The way the NFL is going after "hits" we just might.
Regardless, tackle football is pretty dangerous. Kids get paralyzed and suffer concussions. Should we outlaw it and only play flag football?
So don't act like there's no boundaries. quote:Don't put words in my mouth just because you played in the outfield.
If you're this concerned about always doing the safest thing possible then maybe sports just aren't for you.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:10 pm to DBG
quote:
a lot of people are drawn to the excitement of college baseball. every game is important, you can sit through a midweek game against a-hole tech because you dont know what youre going to see, and the bats have something to do with that...rarely can you say a game is over in the 6th inning or so
I see what you are saying. We will have to wait and see. I too thought the bats were fine. But if there are less runs scored, maybe there will be more 1 or 2 run games that remain close until the end. Who knows? I just don't think that people are only interested in college baseball because of the offense. Again, we will have to wait and see. Like I said earlier though, the new bats are definitely gonna make a difference.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:11 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:Really? There are slightly fewer than 900 college baseball teams including Div. I (286), II (236) and III (362). All of them used the now illegal metal bats last year.
There aren't "thousands" of college pitchers
If there is an average of 12 pitchers/per team (a Div. I team is allowed 35 roster players. I'm not sure about the other two divisions), that means there are slightly more than 10,600 college baseball pitchers.
You just proved your ignorance of college baseball. You are free to leave this thread until you regain some credibility.
quote:Kids should not die, period.
No kid should die from playing a freaking GAME.
And you have yet to show where the new bats would have prevented any of the college baseball deaths you claimed happened. Could you please show where you got those statistics? Was anyone included in those stats similar to former LSU baseball player Wally Pontiff, Jr.? He died in July, 2002 from a heart abnormality, not from a metal bat.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:11 pm to Geauxtiga
would you respond to this, please
quote:
The second question is tougher to answer. Even though aluminum bats have been widely used since the 1970s, there is scant evidence one way or the other about whether they've added danger to the game. Statistics, particularly on the high school level, on batted ball injuries are hard to come by because, officials say, there isn't an adequate injury reporting system. Further, what statistics are available are incomplete. For example, the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission found that between 1991 and 2001 there were 17 players killed by batted balls. But while eight involved metal bats and two involved wood bats, in seven instances the kind of bat wasn't known.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:14 pm to DBG
quote:Sure,if you're that dense.
would you respond to this, please
Composite vs. Wood and doesn't matter if it's softball or baseball, if anything it's worse with a baseball.
quote:
Conclusions
A controlled field-test study analyzing the performance of composite and wooden softball bats along with using low-, mid- and high-compression softballs was conducted in order to analyze the various bat/ball combinations. Batted-ball velocity was measured and available pitcher response time calculated and compared to recommended safety limits imposed on the sport as well as published baseball safety studies. The results from this study concluded that using composite softball bats, batted-ball velocities exceeded the recommended safety limits by as much as 27.2 km/h (16.9 mph) or 0.070 seconds. It can be concluded that regardless of the ball used, composite bats may pose an increased safety risk to defensive players, especially the pitcher, in the path of a batted-ball hit.
LINK
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:17 pm to Geauxtiga
great, you posted a fact that everyone already knew
care to admit you pulled your 17 dead players and tried to pass it as all from metal bats in college, and you actually dont have any numbers to back up your original claim?
care to admit you pulled your 17 dead players and tried to pass it as all from metal bats in college, and you actually dont have any numbers to back up your original claim?
This post was edited on 10/19/10 at 10:18 pm
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:18 pm to LSURussian
quote:No you did. Of those "12 per team" how many are "go to guys". Just cause someone's a pitcher on a team doesn't mean they're pitching. That's like talking about Running Back injuries and counting red shirts and back-ups who don't get in the game. Nice try.
If there is an average of 12 pitchers/per team (a Div. I team is allowed 35 roster players. I'm not sure about the other two divisions), that means there are slightly more than 10,600 college baseball pitchers.
You just proved your ignorance of college baseball. You are free to leave this thread until you regain some credibility.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:19 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:Nope. I read more than 6 results when I searched for the reason the softball pitcher's rubber is being moved 3 feet further from home plate. None of them said the safety of the pitcher was the reason. The only safety reason mentioned in any of the search results was to protect the BATTER.
It's you who needs to tighten up. Safety of the pitcher was ALSO a reason.
Softball pitchers have gotten so strong and throw so fast, batters don't have time to get out of the way.
The primary reason given in every one of the search results I found was to provide more offense in the hopes of increasing fan interest. Pitching dominated softball is boring.
Unlike you, I provide links to back up my statements. LINK
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:20 pm to DBG
quote:2,3,5, how many is enough?
care to admit you pulled your 17 dead players and tried to pass it as all from metal bats in college,
quote:Sure I do, it's out there. You think the NCAA would implement such a change with no "numbers" to back it?
and you actually dont have any numbers to back up your original claim?
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:21 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
quote:
If there is an average of 12 pitchers/per team (a Div. I team is allowed 35 roster players. I'm not sure about the other two divisions), that means there are slightly more than 10,600 college baseball pitchers.
You just proved your ignorance of college baseball. You are free to leave this thread until you regain some credibility.
No you did. Of those "12 per team" how many are "go to guys". Just cause someone's a pitcher on a team doesn't mean they're pitching. That's like talking about Running Back injuries and counting red shirts and back-ups who don't get in the game. Nice try.
Russian did not even say that there are thousands of pitchers. He said that there were thousands of games played last year. Just saying.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:22 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
2,3,5, how many is enough?
dont dance around what i said
quote:
Sure I do, it's out there.
where?
quote:
You think the NCAA would implement such a change with no "numbers" to back it?
i dont know, the ncaa does a lot of dumb shite
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:22 pm to LSURussian
quote:What about the one that had her skull crushed? And I could post more but what's the point, you read over that one.
Softball pitchers have gotten so strong and throw so fast, batters don't have time to get out of the way.
Oh, and I'm not disagreeing about the reason you're saying for the change but safety was also an issue. Read the study I posted.
Posted on 10/19/10 at 10:22 pm to Geauxtiga
quote:
High School softball team
quote:
several high schools nationwide
Why do you keep referring to the safety of college players and then you post quotes referring to high school?
You know there is a difference right? LSU fields a college team, not a high school team.
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