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re: Coach Les Miles quotes
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:00 pm to SludgeFactory
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:00 pm to SludgeFactory
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There are so many but the best one was already mentioned, which was after the win against Ole Miss and the "give them a kiss" comment.
Still shocked he didn't get more flack from that, especially since the "offended by everything" movement was in full force.
This was 2012. Things were not anywhere close to how they are today.
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:01 pm to Reda LSU
Man that was a different world. Getting old is eye opening.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:07 pm to theliontamer
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The Les years were awesome.
Ehhh I don’t know. Most years I thought we underachieved and wished we had different coaches. Yes we won ten games most years just by out talenting most teams but he was a hard headed buffoon mostly
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:14 pm to Pas Bon
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Had Nick Saban never coached at LSU and Les Miles came here and did what he did (same record, lone NC, recruiting), he would be widely viewed as the greatest coach in LSU history. Had Nick Saban not gone to Alabama, I firmly believe Les Miles would have another NC or 2 under his belt.
Les would've never gotten to a NC at LSU without Nick immediately preceding him and handing him the keys to a newly-built Ferrari.
Miles was a good, but not elite, coach who relied on recruiting, motivation, and key hires to offset his poor game-planning and game/time management. Thankfully, at an already-built LSU, good recruiting and motivation alone will win you most of the games on your schedule, even if they end up closer than they should be. Luck is also a factor, where he was extremely lucky in key moments his first years, but regressed to the mean in the latter half.
Ultimately, IMO, Les was a top-30 coach in the country during his time who happened to be coaching a top-5 program, and was a (seemingly) lovable soundbite as well even though none of what he said ever made much sense. Off the top of my head, Arnsparger, McClendon, Kelly, and of course Saban were/are all better coaches in the past 50 years taking into account the situations they found themselves in (and probably even Orgeron before he stopped giving a damn post-2019)
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:15 pm to StatMaster
quote:With mostly very rudimentary "Square Peg-Round Hole" QB's that didn't fit the system.......
That team had a very rudimentary passing game.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:22 pm to 904
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Les would've never gotten to a NC at LSU without Nick immediately preceding him and handing him the keys to a newly-built Ferrari.
You have no clue if that's true. He sustained success at LSU well after Saban was gone and even had some while Saban was in his division.
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who relied on recruiting, motivation, and key hires
That's pretty much the entire job. He did it as well as all but one guy.
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Les was a top-30 coach in the country during his time
You cannot name 30 coaches with more success than Miles during that time. GTFO
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:33 pm to LNCHBOX
Unbelievable people keep bringing this retarded arse coach up again.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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Les would've never gotten to a NC at LSU without Nick immediately preceding him and handing him the keys to a newly-built Ferrari.
You have no clue if that's true. He sustained success at LSU well after Saban was gone and even had some while Saban was in his division.
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Yeah, building something from a not ideal situation and sustaining something that had been built to a high level are two very, very different things and IMHO the former is much more difficult than the latter.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Ugly
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Yeah, building something from a not ideal situation and sustaining something that had been built to a high level are two very, very different things and IMHO the former is much more difficult than the latter.
You simply have no way of saying he wouldn't win here. The bottom line is he did, and sustained it for over a decade. There a handful of coaches that had better results than him.
You can try to spin that all you want, but that is the only fact that matters. He 100% refused to adapt with the game, and that is squarely on him. But you cannot argue with the number of wins he stacked here.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:43 pm to tgdk11
Offense on that team was the same as the defense on the 2019 team if not worse
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:44 pm to king47
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Offense on that team was the same as the defense on the 2019 team if not worse
People acting like the 2019 defense was bad are some of the most ignorant fans around
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:46 pm to JimTiger72
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None of them went 0-5 either did they?
Neither did Les, unless you want to move the goalposts. None of those other coaches that you mentioned had to play Saban as much. Name one coach that had more wins than Les Miles against Saban while he was at Bama.
I'll save you some time. There answer is zero. Les is tied for the most wins with Gus Malzahn. So you can bitch and moan all you want but you can't make some fullproof argument about Les being so terrible against Bama when almost every other coach did worse.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:47 pm to atltiger6487
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It DOESN'T apply out in the real world, where organizations can (and should) make decisions based on far less than a conviction, which can takes (sic) years.
That was my point! Organizations can make whatever decisions they want without giving a damn whether they're right or wrong, fair or not. I'm not trying to defend Miles, because I have no clue what he did or didn't know, but too many people are blindly willing to conclude that an institution like the NCAA, with its impeccable reputation for integrity, must have known what it was doing and blame it on Miles. Again, where's the proof that he knew about it?
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:48 pm to LNCHBOX
He was successful in that he held onto the momentum that was being created for a time with recruiting and mostly just out-physicaling the other teams that we could, until that started to fall off as well. But he was extremely lucky to even make it to the 1 championship that he did, despite the stacked rosters, as all the dominoes fell in the exact right way even after choking against Arkansas to become the only 2-loss champion in the BCS era. Credit to him for showing up against Ohio State and having that incredible 2011 regular-season run though.
Roster management, game planning and strategy, game and time management, etc. etc. Like I said, recruiting, motivation, and key hires can take you a long way at a school like LSU, but there's a lot more to the job than just that, like actual coaching and strategy for instance. There's a reason all of his quarterbacks after the Jamarcus/Flynn years were headcases.
I'm not saying that there were 30 other coaches with better results, I'm saying that there were probably 30 that could've had similar or better results at the time at LSU. But a top-30 coach is still a good coach, just not an elite one.
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That's pretty much the entire job. He did it as well as all but one guy.
Roster management, game planning and strategy, game and time management, etc. etc. Like I said, recruiting, motivation, and key hires can take you a long way at a school like LSU, but there's a lot more to the job than just that, like actual coaching and strategy for instance. There's a reason all of his quarterbacks after the Jamarcus/Flynn years were headcases.
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You cannot name 30 coaches with more success than Miles during that time. GTFO
I'm not saying that there were 30 other coaches with better results, I'm saying that there were probably 30 that could've had similar or better results at the time at LSU. But a top-30 coach is still a good coach, just not an elite one.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:52 pm to 904
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But he was extremely lucky to even make it to the 1 championship that he did, despite the stacked rosters, as all the dominoes fell in the exact right way even after choking against Arkansas to become the only 2-loss champion in the BCS era.
Is this where we pretend Saban didn't have multiple titles where he needed luck to win them? That's part of most championship seasons.
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I'm saying that there were probably 30 that could've had similar or better results at the time at LSU.
Nonsense. That kind of thinking got us stuck with O, who had no business coaching LSU.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:54 pm to Reda LSU
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The Mad Hatter
He stopped being that pretty soon after the moniker stuck. The opposite really.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 2:58 pm to LNCHBOX
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Is this where we pretend Saban didn't have multiple titles where he needed luck to win them? That's part of most championship seasons.
When did Saban lose two games, including the final game of the regular season against your rival, and still get a chance to win the championship before expanding to 12 playoff teams? Or anyone really?
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Nonsense. That kind of thinking got us stuck with O, who had no business coaching LSU.
O was a better coach in the years that he still gave a shite from 2015-2019 (and was rightfully fired for checking out afterwards) than Miles was at any point in his time at LSU.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:00 pm to 904
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O was a better coach in the years that he still gave a shite from 2015-2019 (and was rightfully fired for checking out afterwards) than Miles was at any point in his time at LSU.
He was nothing without the coaches he kept from Les
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:01 pm to LNCHBOX
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You simply have no way of saying he wouldn't win here. The bottom line is he did, and sustained it for over a decade. There a handful of coaches that had better results than him.
And I didn't say that, I said IMHO one was harder than the other and I absolutely believe that to be true. But I do have a very hard time believing Les could have taken what Saban did and do what he did.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:02 pm to Tiger Ugly
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But I do have a very hard time believing Les could have taken what Saban did and do what he did.
Wut?
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