re: Coach 0 should NOT get an extension

EdO was hired because Miles couldn't get us over that hump

We are now worse under EdO


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O hasn't earned either an extension, or a raise to this point. When he was hired, he said he was going to fix this offense. When he said "fix," unless he meant make it statistically worse in ever major and minor offensive category, he has not done his job. He has earned the opportunity to fix this next year. But barring some major improvements in Offense next year, he has to go. You simply don't fire a Les Miles for not meeting a certain standard, then give his replacement a pass.

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Well said. I agree 100%. It pissed me off to hear Hannigriff and Ott saying that Alleva and company are already preparing a raise/extension package for O. He hasn't earned it and he doesn't deserve it.

Preach Brother Rick!!

I'm not saying fire O. But saying he doesn't deserve an extension is not the same as saying i want him fired.

Now, he needs to fix the offense. I don't care how he does it, but 6 passing TDs is abysmal and the offensive coaches should be ashamed.

But by God, we need to hold O to the same standards as we held Les to. You win the SEC, you got your extension.

This recruiting talk is nonsense. So, we extend him one more year, it automatically is gonna result in a top 5 class? Gimme a break.

Hire better recruiters on your staff that can also coach and that improves your recruiting. Quit hiring your buddies who don't know what the hell they are doing.

If we manage to go 11-2 this year, give him a good bonus, but extending his contract is ludicrous. There is absolutely no reason to do that. ALL that does is make his buyout higher if he had to be terminated. The dude doesn't want to coach anywhere else and no one else wants him to be their HC.

Agreed

There’s no reason to just extend

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While I have been very critical of 0, getting rid of him at this point and getting into this cycle of switching coaches every year will destroy any semblance of culture we have and send us into Tennessee/usc depths

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Oh please. LSU is not tennessee.

Also, LSU has shown even an interim coach and even average coaches can have successs here while still established.

Is it too much to ask for an above average coach who is an x and o guy.

I don’t see E’s offense building much more going forward. He will continue to beat up lesser opponents and still struggle against equal or greater talent. Same problem we had under Les.

Coach O signed a five year contract, no?????

There is ZERO reason to extend him. He isn’t going any where. At least let the context play out.

I don’t understand the extension talk this soon.

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Especially in the SEC West. It's almost like people don't remember the 90s at all.

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THIS IS NOT THE frickING 90’s.

LSU has proven that while established even an average to slightly above average coach can come in and have success.

Miles took over a 9 win established LSU and went

11 wins year one
11 wins year two
12 wins year three

Orgeron, a very unsuccessful HC took over what should have been a 10 win LSU program (cancelled game) and still maintained a 9 win program..

He has yet to win 10 in a season fwiw.. but even he has shown an average coach can succeed at an established LSU.

LSU was not established in the 90s. They are now.


The SEC is not what it once was and we are not taking advantage. We continue to do everything the hard way and simply get by.

It’s frustrating because there is no reason LSU isn’t at least on par with Georgia right now. Losing 1 game to 2 games a season and at least competing against Alabama.

So sick of people who want to settle just because LSU was once bad. We aren’t Tennessee because we have shown even average coaches can have tremendous success here. Why is it too much to ask for another bright mind x and o guy to be head-coach???

If Miles can come in and win 11 games a season along with a championship in three seasons, then that should be the standard. That’s the type of program LSU can be. Maybe not winning the championship, but at least truly competing.

If you want to play the optics game, it is pretty simple.

Give O a 1-year extension at his current salary, his buyout does not get extended in any way. It is based on the original contract.

i.e. if he currently is owed $6 million after this season, it doesn't go up with the new extension year.

If you want to split the last year buyout value over the last two years including the extension, fine I guess.

He should in no way be guaranteed any more money than his original contract however. This makes it just optics.