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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line

Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

11 qb hurries
And 5 qb hits
6 tfls say otherwise

Bama pressured him. He just had options to throw to and his wide receivers were running more then the 9,7,6,4 limbs on the route tree



How many sacks?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70010 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Every player on the 07 roster spent more time under miles than Saban yet you give him credit for 07.


Answer yes or no...

We had some pretty damn good players that were recruited by Saban when we won in 2007 right?

Did Miles ever win a NT with a roster with only his recruits?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

What do you think we were missing?


Primarily running backs. Orgeron had already stated he wanted a thunder and lightning

We didn't have the lightning.

The weakest part of the offense.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

In 17’ that the team would struggle because they had a few pieces of nice top end talent but depth mostly made up of young players. That 18’ would be much improved because the stellar freshmen class from the year before would mature And that in 19’ the program would be positioned to make a major run.


More bullshite next year U garbage

We have as much talent on our oline as clemson and the majority of the SEC and definitely as much as every team that scored on Bama.

That is an objective TRUTH that you can’t dispute.

And your claim of being inexperienced is garbage as well because Bama has been kicking our arse for 7 years. We have been inexperienced for 7 years?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

Look at some of the losses in Miles’ last full season.

Why are those losses that shocking? Why is it portrayed as some type of regression?

They were all embarrassing but not all that shocking given the state of the program.

What exactly do you think continuity means?

Continuation of where LSU was 2006 or 2007?

That seems to be the hangup when fans start spouting off about standards, not realizing how low the standards actually were by the end of Miles termination


LSU Strength of Schedule vs. Record:

2015: SOS (5), 9-3
2016: SOS (4), 8-4
2017: SOS (27), 9-4
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:14 pm to
It was 8:34 seconds left in the third quarter before I saw a bama player put a hand on Trevor. It was also a touchdown pass. Again Rick's little narrative is bullshite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Topwater Trout



Convince lil Ricky that 2018 was Miles team and he will be praising this season from now on..
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:15 pm to
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We have as much talent on our oline as clemson and the majority of the SEC and definitely as much as every team that scored on Bama.


Ok which players specifically?

Let’s start there
Posted by The Blue Stuff
Member since Oct 2015
2455 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Clemson...
3 Star
3 Star
3 Star
4 Star
5 Star

LSU...
3 Star
3 Star
4 Star
4 Star
4 Star

We all saw what they did in pass pro last night. So I’m tired of hearing the excuse that we don’t have the talent, it’s a lame excuse.

InB4 you say Lawrence is better than Burrow. No shite. But we can’t score A SINGLE POINT! He’s not that much better

InB4 you say their o-line is older. So what. That’s the coaches job to keep his team together. Our guys aren’t leaving because they are lighting the world on fire.




Its the 5 star QB that we need. O line excuse is weak
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:16 pm to
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How many sacks?


He plays in an offense that gets the
ball out and doesnt go max protect.


Educate yourself instead regurgitating rant bullshite.

Qb hurries
Qb hits
Tfl
Is penetration.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

More bullshite next year U garbage


No, it's this year.

No reason to believe the offense will not be improved.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:16 pm to
Explain your point & I’ll be happy to address it
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48219 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:


Did Miles ever win a NT with a roster with only his recruits? 




Saban didnt at lsu either.

Lets give dinardo credit.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Jesus you are pathetic. He didn’t even need his pocket awareness last night. He wasn’t pressured.

Try again. That’s not why we can’t score


You're wrong. There were 11 QB hurries.

Clemson's OL struggles against Bama's DL too, they just kept pressure off with screen passes and quicker developing plays - something Slinger simply couldn't do this year.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:17 pm to
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Ok which players specifically? Let’s start there


I posted the recruiting rankings in the OP. If you want to get into specifics I’ll let you argue that.

The talent overall is equivalent on paper when they came into college. And this has been done for almost every team in the SEC, we are better or comparable on paper.

FACTS
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22968 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Explain your point & I’ll be happy to address it



The 2017 season was certainly a regression from the mean.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91837 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

It was 8:34 seconds left in the third quarter before I saw a bama player put a hand on Trevor. It was also a touchdown pass. Again Rick's little narrative is bullshite.



If you watched that game and you thought Clemson is running the same offense as us, with simply better OL play, you're nuts.

They're spreading it out, in the shotgun most of the time, and running quick developing plays. They run to the edge. They get the ball to people on space. They run a GD MFn screen.

They know you can't go toe to toe with Alabama in the trenches, so you get away from them.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290747 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

posted the recruiting rankings in the OP. If you want to get into specifics I’ll let you argue that.



Thought so


You know they are talented you just can’t tell me which ones you are talking about. Solid argument.

This post was edited on 1/8/19 at 12:22 pm
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:22 pm to
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He plays in an offense that gets the
ball out and doesnt go max protect.


Educate yourself instead regurgitating rant bullshite






You can't stop making an arse of yourself.

How many sacks again Ricky?

You said 5 QB hits

I've actually seen one and I'm at 5 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. He still hasn't been flushed out of the pocket once. You are so full of shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298333 posts
Posted on 1/8/19 at 12:22 pm to
Clemsons O line kept Bama at Bay

Let the excuses commence
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