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re: Clemson’s o-line vs LSU’s o-line

Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:40 pm to
It’s funny because usually he’s the one jumping into a thread and the first thing he does is insult posters who aren’t even addressing him. Projection seems to be his biggest go to, he accuses everyone els of doing exactly what he’s doing. He also jumps back and forth over topics as he’s debunked, often claiming he didn’t say what he said or changing his take on a dime as its defeated


Your first post in this thread that I've seen today was highly insulting, unprovoked and not true. Your posts only get worse. All you're doing is trying to start an argument. You, rick and stew came in here stirring up shite.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:44 pm to
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First off, you'd get fricking destroyed in person with your smug little attitude.

Second, he insinuated that people shouldn't blame the OL for the team's offensive struggles, and then he literally blames the OL for the team's offensive struggles...he literally does this in the very next line, hence my last post.

You can claim others lack ready comprehension all you want, you little bitch...the fact of the matter is that I comprehended what he wrote perfectly, and now you're claiming that he meant something else



Damn that left a mark.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:44 pm to
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First off, you'd get fricking destroyed in person with your smug little attitude.


Maybe. Maybe not. You don’t know me.

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You can claim others lack ready comprehension all you want, you little bitch.


I think you need to take a break

Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:46 pm to
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started this thread and it’s not about how to improve the offense. You derailed it, and you can GTFO


The good news is you don't get to say who can and can't post in a thread. The way you've gotten destroyed in it though I bet there's several people you'd like to get rid of.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:47 pm to
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I think you need to take a break



Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 5:55 pm to
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The good news is you don't get to say who can and can't post in a thread. The way you've gotten destroyed in it though I bet there's several people you'd like to get rid of.


Just entertain me for a second. How exactly have I been destroyed? The only objective facts in this thread are in the OP. The rest are opinions.

So go ahead and tell me. How have I been destroyed? Just because you say something doesn’t mean it’s true, that seems to be your biggest problem.

There’s really no point to this thread anymore. You operate in a different reality. You don’t support you arguments with any facts, and you continually dodge questions and deny previous statements. Basically, you suck as a poster.
Posted by OPTIMAX CAT
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:11 pm to
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So...it "is" the OL's fault then?


Yes.. The players and COACHES are responsible for the poor play from the OL unit at times this season but the OL has TALENT.

While the OL didn't perform great this season, it's completely asinine to blame a lack of talent at this position to explain LSU's ineffective terribly ran offense.

Hope this clears it up for you all.
Posted by OppositeMan
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:19 pm to
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Maybe. Maybe not. You don’t know me.


I'm certain of it...I know enough. You go online and look for ways to insult other peoples' intelligence in order to make yourself feel less inadequate.

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I think you need to take a break


You insulted me, and I called you out. This little high road thingy you're doing now is another example of what I just described above.

Oh, and Optimax Cat just verified that my interpretation in regards to it being the OL's fault is accurate.

It is the OL's fault. I wish we had better coaches to bring in better talent and to coach up the talent we have.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 6:23 pm
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 6:45 pm to
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There’s really no point to this thread anymore. You operate in a different reality. You don’t support you arguments with any facts, and you continually dodge questions and deny previous statements. Basically, you suck as a poster



You insult everyone who doesn't agree with you in this thread. Can you point out these unsupported arguments. You were actually arguing that better players wouldn't help the team. Let that sink in.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:09 pm to
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Still trying to fix the mess Miles left along the ol


How many years is it going to take? 5? People still say we can’t geg any true tackles.. including this class. I’m genuinely asking because this seems like an ongoing issue.

Also, to the playing together so long crowd.. weren’t they (Clemson) in the playoffs a year, as well as two to three years ago as well? Perhaps they are just better with better coaching?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:16 pm to
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Oh, and Optimax Cat just verified that my interpretation in regards to it being the OL's fault is accurate.


He said...

“While the OL didn't perform great this season, it's completely asinine to blame a lack of talent at this position to explain LSU's ineffective terribly ran offense.”

And I completely agree. I literally said in my last post....

“He means... blaming the offensive line for not having enough talent.” (you can’t blame them, just to be clear)

What is wrong with you? I think you are a troll. I’m going to go with that idea because that’s the only way anything makes sense.
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 7:23 pm
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Can you point out these unsupported arguments.


Your argument that Clemson has better talent on their o line. Pretty much the point of the whole thread. Do you have any proof that Clemson has more raw talent coming in at the offensive line position?

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You were actually arguing that better players wouldn't help the team.


Link?
Posted by dukke v
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Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:22 pm to
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Your argument that Clemson has better talent on their o line.



They did this year.......

So whats your point.....................
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:24 pm to
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They did this year.......


What are you basing that on? Their offense’s performance against Bama?
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:25 pm to
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“He means... blaming the offensive line for not having enough talent.” (you can’t blame them, just to be clear



It's not about blaming anybody. It's about identifying areas that need improvement and what that improvement might be. The lack of talent thing has been blown up way out of proportion to what it is. If you go into the other thread about the offense posters are essentially saying the same thing. You don't see any of the posters that came in here calling me a player basher in that thread calling those people out. That should tell you something.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:26 pm to
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The lack of talent thing has been blown up way out of proportion to what it is.


I agree. There is no significant lack of talent.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:28 pm to
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Yea and I’m saying it didn’t make a difference when we did have a stud tackle


Here is one.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:31 pm to
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What are you basing that on? Their offense’s performance against Bama?





NOPE... All year long....................
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:32 pm to
Correct. At no point when we had a stud left tackle did our offense produce like Clemson’s.

So your theory that we just need prototypical talent at left tackle for the offense to function doesn’t make sense.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 1/11/19 at 7:34 pm to
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NOPE... All year long....................


I agree they performed better. I’m not disputing that.

I’m disputing the fact that their players are inherently more talented than our players. In other words, I don’t agree that they have more pontential than our players from a raw talent perspective.
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