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Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:24 pm to Madking
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It’s funny because usually he’s the one jumping into a thread and the first thing he does is insult posters who aren’t even addressing him. Projection seems to be his biggest go to, he accuses everyone els of doing exactly what he’s doing. He also jumps back and forth over topics as he’s debunked, often claiming he didn’t say what he said or changing his take on a dime as its defeated.
I straight up caught him in lie. He was shitting all over the 2015 offense one night. The next night i simply asked...." ben why is it ok for you to shite and bash the 2015 offense and you lose youre mind any time someone questions the 2018 offense?".
He said he had never bashed miles or cam offense( i had to educate him and tell him that wasnt Cam's offense).
I then posted this....
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:25 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You’re absolutely right, if les wins those 2 games he keeps his job but don’t forget he and Alleva were butting heads for a few years at the end. Alleva was embarrassed about Les playing him over his last extension when he came up with the threat of leaving for Arkansas and Alleva was looking for excuses to fire him and tried to less than a year before.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:26 pm to bencoleman
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haven't insulted anyone in this thread but I've been insulted quite a bit. By several people.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:26 pm to bstew3006
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Not really, you posted it A LOT and defended it! You asked me to name 1 player that had talent...just name 1.
Please tell me you aren't about to say you were trying to troll
Absolutely not trolling. Because if you are saying that The offensive line is talented but watching the unit on the field is excruciating you need to back up your talent statement. Not one person ever named a name. I understand that you want to bash the coaches. It's what all of you do but don't sit there and say how talented they all are and then not be prepared to name them. In a situation where there's plenty of legitimate reasons to get after the coaches why go there.
Now as far as being better next year I don't know how another year in a system wouldn't give a player a chance to improve.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:28 pm to bencoleman
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It was never meant to bash players and it's been blown way out of proportion.
When i say our offensive coaches are incompetent it was never meant to bash.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:29 pm to Rickdaddy4188
That crew is famous for that type of argument. The biggest tell is the fact that they can’t budge an inch from their narrative. Level headed fans will have no problem saying that this season was in no way a failure while also knowing the offense was terrible and cost us games. You’ll never see one of them even entertaining a single point that goes off their script.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:30 pm to Madking
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’re absolutely right, if les wins those 2 games he keeps his job but don’t forget he and Alleva were butting heads for a few years at the end. Alleva was embarrassed about Les playing him over his last extension when he came up with the threat of leaving for Arkansas and Alleva was looking for excuses to fire him and tried to less than a year before
Agreed. I wish we wouldve fired him after 2015. No way for O to get the job without interim
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:30 pm to Madking
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He also jumps back and forth over topics as he’s debunked, often claiming he didn’t say what he said or changing his take on a dime as its defeated.
it’s amazing how well you have described his mental illnessPosted on 1/11/19 at 4:32 pm to Madking
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. You’ll never see one of them even entertaining a single point that goes off their script
This is bullshite. I said in this thread if LSU had better tackles that they win two more games. All while football genius and OP argued that better players wouldn't make LSU a better team.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Exactly, the re-negging on that decision didn’t help anyone. It put Les in a lame duck no win situation and it also made our admin look like fools. It sent a message to anyone considering coming here that our AD had no real power and we as a program had no plan or direction and that we were reacting instead or having vision or a grip on what was happening here.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:33 pm to bencoleman
That’s not going off script that’s bashing players which is the crux of all you guys arguments. How can the same Oline that outplayed Bama a season ago as younger players all of the sudden not be talented enough to block La. Tech and SLU?
This post was edited on 1/11/19 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:33 pm to WaWaWeeWa
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it’s amazing how well you have described his mental illness
I thought that you were done here. You have no shame I guess.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:34 pm to bencoleman
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It's what all of you do but don't sit there and say how talented they all are and then not be prepared to name them. In a situation where there's plenty of legitimate reasons to get after the coaches why go there.
Clemson has had 1 olinemen drafted since 2008. They have 1 all acc olineman ben. Its clear talent isnt the reason our oline is playing atrocious against bama.
How come every single opponent Southeastern played this year, gained more yards than lsu and had more 1st downs than lsu? Are we less talented than Southland conference teams Ben?
Youre inability to lay any blame at the feet of the staff puts your bias into the light.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:36 pm to Madking
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That’s not going off script that’s bashing players which is the crux of all you guys arguments
I bet you've been all up in some Giles threads or Greedy threads. And it's not bashing players it was discussing a hypothetical. Keep your little bashing players narrative. It's all you've got.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:37 pm to bencoleman
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This is bullshite. I said in this thread if LSU had better tackles that they win two more games. All while football genius and OP argued that better players wouldn't make LSU a better team.
Thats not off script. Youre blaming talent for the loss and saying better players wouldve won the game.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:37 pm to bencoleman
Well you’d lose that bet because I don’t bash amateur athletes, especially when there’s literally no reason to do so.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:39 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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The fact that you cant see that isnt shocking.
The man is totally obtuse.
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:42 pm to bencoleman
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Not one person ever named a name
I did, I actually named all of them...by name.
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Because if you are saying that The offensive line is talented but watching the unit on the field is excruciating you need to back up your talent statement
I have and so did many others. We laid the blame on the coaches! It's on the coaches to take the talent and put it in the best position to succeed as a UNIT...(scheme/playcalling). The coaches are failing at this! Will that change? I sure as shite hope so! But to say no individual player is talented is an insult.
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Now as far as being better next year I don't know how another year in a system wouldn't give a player a chance to improve.
SURE, but that doesn't make them TALENTED! Either they are talented or not. That's why you keep getting called out!
I don't think you understand what TALENTED means. Maybe you should say they aren't playing good as a UNIT. Big difference than saying they have NO TALENT!
If you say they are in the wrong position and another year learning this complicated system will benefit them, fine!
But when you say there is NO TALENT, PLEASE NAME THIS TALENT and in the same breath say they will be better next year, it destroys your entire no talent statement!
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It was never meant to bash players
Explain
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Do you really not understand why I do that
Nope, still waiting
Posted on 1/11/19 at 4:42 pm to Madking
Well if none of you actually want to discuss how to improve the offense could you find another thread to derail.
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