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re: Ciron must be a JJ hater too, interesting quote
Posted on 7/24/09 at 11:24 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
Posted on 7/24/09 at 11:24 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
Like I said we are still 8-5 with JJ at QB more than likely...
Last year was an unusual set of circumstances that all parlayed into a bad season.
So many things could have happened that could have changed out come of many games.
New season is only 6 weeks away
Last year was an unusual set of circumstances that all parlayed into a bad season.
So many things could have happened that could have changed out come of many games.
New season is only 6 weeks away
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Posted on 7/24/09 at 11:33 pm to tduecen
I agree, looking back on the season. Inexperienced QBs, crappy D-coordinators, and a tough schedule equals mediocre season.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 12:28 am to jrowla2
quote:Careful, all good sentiments towards JJ are immediately seen as insults towards Lee.
the bad things he did overshadowed the good
I feel much more comfortable with JJ at the wheel.
BT gets horny when people insult Lee.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 1:47 am to Ninja Looter
quote:I'd like our chances - a lot.
Your logic is flawed. All you can say from what you posted is that if JL didn't commit costly turnovers versus UGA and Bama we would have won. You can't just assume that JJ automatically puts up the same offensive output that JL did, especially at a time in the season when Les said JJ wasn't ready.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 1:59 am to offdacorner
quote:
You singled out RP.
You singled out Byrd.
RP acted selfishly and didn't even try, he got chance after chance but threw it back in Miles' and the rest of the team's face.
Byrd was lazy on his routes, when we all knew he could have run them much better.
Lee wasn't selfish. Lee wasn't lazy.
He tried as hard as he could, and he gave it his best. Okay, maybe his best wasnt good enough for SEC football. However, unlike RP and DB, Jarrett Lee gave it his all, and should be commended.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:06 am to TigersforEver
quote:
Lee wasn't selfish. Lee wasn't lazy.
He tried as hard as he could, and he gave it his best. Okay, maybe his best wasnt good enough for SEC football. However, unlike RP and DB, Jarrett Lee gave it his all, and should be commended.
Never learning from your mistakes is giving it your all?
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:07 am to F machine
I think the quote from Black sums it up well. I am gonna go get it and post it
"On the team as a whole? I wouldn't say it really takes a toll just because of what he did, because we all make mistakes. I'm not going to sit here and beat him down or anything like that for something he did, because I make mistakes too. We're all human. He's young. It's hard playing quarterback in the SEC, and I understand that. So, if he gets hit or if he throws an interception, I'm going to try and tackle the guy. I'm not going to get mad at him or anything. Then, when we get back on the field I'm going to go after it just the same and try to block my butt off for him so he can throw another touchdown."
He's mature enough to handle it. I mean, they came at him every single way. He had so much pressure on him. He never let him affect him. He went out to practice every single day exactly the same, from the start of the season until the end of the season -- no matter what happened. That's the kind of guy he is, and he's a leader. He really is, because with everything that happened, and the mistakes he did make, he didn't let it bother him the next week. That's the great thing about Jarrett."
With Black saying good things about both QB's I feel good for season.
"On the team as a whole? I wouldn't say it really takes a toll just because of what he did, because we all make mistakes. I'm not going to sit here and beat him down or anything like that for something he did, because I make mistakes too. We're all human. He's young. It's hard playing quarterback in the SEC, and I understand that. So, if he gets hit or if he throws an interception, I'm going to try and tackle the guy. I'm not going to get mad at him or anything. Then, when we get back on the field I'm going to go after it just the same and try to block my butt off for him so he can throw another touchdown."
He's mature enough to handle it. I mean, they came at him every single way. He had so much pressure on him. He never let him affect him. He went out to practice every single day exactly the same, from the start of the season until the end of the season -- no matter what happened. That's the kind of guy he is, and he's a leader. He really is, because with everything that happened, and the mistakes he did make, he didn't let it bother him the next week. That's the great thing about Jarrett."
With Black saying good things about both QB's I feel good for season.
This post was edited on 7/25/09 at 2:10 am
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:08 am to tduecen
quote:
I think the quote from Black sums it up well. I am gonna go get it and post it
I read the quote. I think making mistakes when you're a freshman is fine. I understand. But the guy was making the same mistakes over and over again. How can you not make progress...even a little?
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:08 am to F machine
quote:
Never learning from your mistakes is giving it your all?
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:11 am to F machine
quote:
I read the quote. I think making mistakes when you're a freshman is fine. I understand. But the guy was making the same mistakes over and over again. How can you not make progress...even a little?
Well you have to remember, its not like he was able to have a gimme game. I mean even Troy was ranked #33 in Nation Defensively.
Prior to Florida game his numbers were good, then once he hit meat of SEC he fell off.
He rebounded and played OK against South Carolina but Georgia and Alabama were horrible. Then again they were 3 of the best teams in SEC last year, you had to expect trouble, just not like that.
This is the reason I think we are still 8-5 even if JJ is starter after Hatch goes down.
This post was edited on 7/25/09 at 2:13 am
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:13 am to tduecen
quote:He looked as bad in his first action vs. Appy as he did against Ole Miss.
Prior to Florida game his numbers were good, then once he hit meat of SEC he fell off.
He rebounded and played OK against South Carolina but Georgia and Alabama were horrible. Then again they were 3 of the best teams in SEC last year, you had to expect trouble, just not like that.
He did not get better.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:14 am to tduecen
quote:
Then again they were 3 of the best teams in SEC last year, you had to expect trouble, just not like that.
Like you said, I did expect trouble. But 7 ints against two teams? And 3 of those were pick 6's? That's just telling me that something isn't right
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:16 am to F machine
quote:There was some idiot on here saying that the WR's were to blame for not being better tacklers. They'll blame anyone but Lee.
Like you said, I did expect trouble. But 7 ints against two teams? And 3 of those were pick 6's? That's just telling me that something isn't right
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:17 am to Roaad
?????
I think we watched different games
6/10 2 touchdowns 1 INT 116 Yards against Appy State
10/18 and 84 yards against N Texas
11/22 2 Touchdowns 1 INT 184 against Auburn
18/27 2 Touchdowns 1 INT 261 against Miss State
those are not bad numbers
I think we watched different games
6/10 2 touchdowns 1 INT 116 Yards against Appy State
10/18 and 84 yards against N Texas
11/22 2 Touchdowns 1 INT 184 against Auburn
18/27 2 Touchdowns 1 INT 261 against Miss State
those are not bad numbers
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:20 am to tduecen
quote:
10/18 and 84 yards against N Texas
this isn't good. at all. And the other games weren't bad, but you notice how he has at least one int in everyone. As if that isn't bad enough, I think 2 of those games had pick 6's from him...maybe even 3
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:23 am to F machine
quote:
Like you said, I did expect trouble. But 7 ints against two teams? And 3 of those were pick 6's? That's just telling me that something isn't right
Well you can never decide the pick 6. That is just the nature of the game really.
As far as 7 INT in 2 games, that is a combination of trying to do too much, being confused, forcing passes, and the defense that we faced.
Florida #9 Defense
Georgia #22 Defense
Bama #3 Defense
both QB's were young last year, but QB's made mistakes.
Lee threw INT
JJ takes sacks and has a tendency to fumble
These are correctable problems at least, and with age, experience, coaching, and playing time they can be corrected.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:25 am to F machine
quote:
this isn't good. at all. And the other games weren't bad, but you notice how he has at least one int in everyone. As if that isn't bad enough, I think 2 of those games had pick 6's from him...maybe even 3
Well also remember against N Texas, Hatch was starter. Lee did not come into game until 2nd Quarter and 4th.
Also, I expected the INT, as I mentioned earlier out of all the freshmen QB's in SEC past 10 years only Erik Ainge and Jay Cutler threw double digit touchdowns and less than 10 INT.
I expected 15 INT from him for the season, I was off by 1. Pick 6 is something no one can determine and is more of a fluke stat than anything else because is usually happens so rarely.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:25 am to tduecen
quote:When you have as many as He does, do we conclude that it is a natural result of his starting?
Well you can never decide the pick 6. That is just the nature of the game really.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:27 am to Roaad
quote:was that you, tdeucen?
There was some idiot on here saying that the WR's were to blame for not being better tacklers. They'll blame anyone but Lee.
Posted on 7/25/09 at 2:28 am to Roaad
quote:
When you have as many as He does, do we conclude that it is a natural result of his starting?
Well they come from obviously a bad decision by the QB and then the returner having luck on his side. Last year LSU had no lucky breaks, from beginning of season with RP getting kicked off, to our #1 (Hatch) getting hurt.
It was a bad year and football Gods were against LSU.
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