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re: Chavis
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:49 am to TJG210
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:49 am to TJG210
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Good god you people have low expectations......to call him great is idiotic at best. Teams went right up and down the field on us this year, we didn't wreak havoc on the quarterbacks, and barely caused any turnovers. Have we gone this far down as a program that this qualifies as a stellar year? Did yall somehow miss in the Florida game and how they went up and down the field on us all night long, we intercepted 1 ball and they punted a grand total of 1 time.
I don't expect the 85 Bears defense, but I do expect one that can at least hold Louisiana Tech to single digits.
-this
The guy is good, I like him...but were use to APPLYING PRESSURE!!! we have been a team that brings pressure since Saban brought it...we've seen it work, its the reason for our success...Chavis doesnt do it....plain and simple, if he were to blitz more and bring pressure id love him, but he doesnt till he gets rid of that prevent defense he will be an above average D- Coord.....Georgia and other wanted him cause of experience and their not alot of good DC's out there...its a bare market, so his value goes up b/c of that...not b/c he's just that good...and yes, my dick could have called a better Dfensive game then Malveto...so there SHOULD have been improvement...
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Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:50 am to JustSmokin
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You must be awfully young to not remember UT defense in the mid to late 90s. When they had talent, they had a good defense.
What about that defense that had Will Overstreet, John Henderson and Albert Haynesworth (on the same defensive line...playing at the same time). That team also had Jabari Greer and Parys Harrelson.
That was a pretty good D, but nowhere near as good as they should've been. Don't get me started on the SECCG.
I just can't get around the fact that the aforementioned group got sliced and diced by the elusive Matt Mauck.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:54 am to TJG210
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Did yall somehow miss in the Florida game and how they went up and down the field on us all night long, we intercepted 1 ball and they punted a grand total of 1 time.
And LSU punted four times and one INT. We held Florida to 13 points and all the offense could do is score 3? Eight offensive possessions with 1 INT, four punts, and two turnover in downs? Maybe you can point to other games, but the defense did fine here. Offense had to step up and did not.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:56 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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did fine here
We didn't stop them all night? What was their TOP? 40 minutes?
Posted on 2/4/10 at 9:59 am to TJG210
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What was their TOP?
You don't think our offense had anything to do with it?
There is no doubt our defense was poor on getting off the field on 3rd down. But our awful offense did them no favors, either.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:17 am to TJG210
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did fine here
We didn't stop them all night? What was their TOP? 40 minutes?
Put it this way, we got 8 chances on offense and they got 9 chances (including the end of 1st possession - 1 play for 0:22 - and running out the clock possession in the 4th qtr.- 5 plays for over 2 mins.).
We scored one time on eight chances (3 points).
They scored three times on nine (seven?) chances (13 points).
LSU had the opportunity to win and coul
d not do it vs. Florida's defense.
Florida-LSU Drive Log
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:32 am to TJG210
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We had shut down Mustain for the most part in the first half of the Arkansas game.........yet in the second we start rushing three down lineman and getting no pressure and he carves us up. It isn't rocket science folks.
You are correct, isn't rocket science. LSU should have been all over Ark's defense. It did not.
I mean, throwing an INT in the 3rd and giving Ark the ball on our 28 was brutal.
Holiday having his hot and cold day. One return for a TD and the other a fumble. No points off that particular turnover but you can see the difference in field possession. Instead of LSU getting the ball on Ark's 40, Hogs get the ball back. Defense stops them in 3 but the punt forces LSU to start at its 20. LSU goes three and out, punts, which gives Ark field possession and a field goal later.
10 point swing right there. LSU had the chance to put them away but let ARK hang around in the 4th quarter.
I will agree with you LSU defense should have stepped up on one of Ark's scoring drives in the 2nd half. The first two drives, Ark ran the ball on LSU to easily and that is unacceptable. Last series was Mallet just being a gunslinger but LSU's secondary should have been better.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:43 am to JustSmokin
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You don't think our offense had anything to do with it?
Yes, but why not be a little more aggressive and try to create a short field or heaven forbid defensive points? Hell with the way our offense played most of the year, a few defensive scores would have been welcome.
Maybe if our defense would have made a few stops and set us up in better field position the offense would have had a better chance at success instead of having to drive 80+yds each time.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 10:43 am to JPLSU1981
sure, the D can stop the other team quicker and give the ball back to the O. but there cannot possibly be any question that our O ran so few plays because when they got the ball they couldn't move it, esp on the ground, make first downs and run time off the clock. the number of possessions in a football game are pretty much the same for either team. when your O is moving the ball the TOP increases for you and decreases for them. you run more plays and they run less. this years record was all on the O; we couldn't run the ball when we needed to, we couldn't keep drives alive and we couldn't score enough. this caused our D to play too long and get gassed in the end.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 11:47 am to josh336
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LSU..........where being slightly above average has been okay for 5 years and counting
WTF dude? 3 of those 5 years were top 5 finishes (including #1 after the 2007 season).
"Slightly above average"?
Posted on 2/4/10 at 12:58 pm to TJG210
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Yes, but why not be a little more aggressive and try to create a short field or heaven forbid defensive points? Hell with the way our offense played most of the year, a few defensive scores would have been welcome.
Maybe if our defense would have made a few stops and set us up in better field position the offense would have had a better chance at success instead of having to drive 80+yds each time.
good rant....
Posted on 2/4/10 at 1:38 pm to TJG210
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One year at LSU is had to judge....
We will have to see what his future holds
What don't you understand bout the above comments?
I'm not ready to make a call on the Chavis D at this time, but he has history of producing good D teams and our scoring D got a lot better.
What our D does in 10 I don't know and neither do you, but continue on with your negative speculation. I'm sure you know better than a man who has been a DC at the major college level the past 15 yrs.
Posted on 2/4/10 at 1:38 pm to Ace Midnight
I meant that most more in jest
Posted on 2/4/10 at 1:45 pm to Ace Midnight
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WTF dude? 3 of those 5 years were top 5 finishes (including #1 after the 2007 season).
"Slightly above average"?
LSU fans can be a tuff crowd, no?
Posted on 2/4/10 at 1:50 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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What our D does in 10 I don't know and neither do you, but continue on with your negative speculation. I'm sure you know better than a man who has been a DC at the major college level the past 15 yrs.
The "Chief" knows def
Posted on 2/4/10 at 2:20 pm to TJG210
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Yes, but why not be a little more aggressive and try to create a short field or heaven forbid defensive points? Hell with the way our offense played most of the year, a few defensive scores would have been welcome.
Maybe if our defense would have made a few stops and set us up in better field position the offense would have had a better chance at success instead of having to drive 80+yds each time.
Seriously. Offense was ranked 112th out of 120 teams. Defense was 26th (scoring defense was 11th).
LSU 2009 Stat Rankings
Keep the above with the below in mind:
LSU Looked Loaded...
Posted on 2/5/10 at 12:58 am to Alltheway Tigers!
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Seriously. Offense was ranked 112th out of 120 teams. Defense was 26th (scoring defense was 11th).
Stats are for losers.....again not saying I expected the 85 Bears, but come on to say this guy deserved a raise and extension after such a mediocre performance is insane. And hell if we would have lost him, if Miles is worth his salt would have gone out and found a suitable replacement.
How can you defend rushing 3 guys against the SEC's best passer? We probably should have lost that game as well......Some of yall may actually want to watch the games........
Posted on 2/5/10 at 1:17 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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TigersOfGeauxld
Chavis
UT finished dead last in the SEC in time of possession in 2008, and 4th in 2009.
Don't you think Chavis' defense played a role in UT's 2008 TOP? At least a little bit?
If you don't get the other team off the field fast and give your offense good field position, your offense has little chance to look good. That's all on Chavis.
Not that I think Crouton is any good as an OC either.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 3:37 am to Alltheway Tigers!
Stats are for losers.....again not saying I expected the 85 Bears, but come on to say this guy deserved a raise and extension after such a mediocre performance is insane. And hell if we would have lost him, if Miles is worth his salt would have gone out and found a suitable replacement.
How can you defend rushing 3 guys against the SEC's best passer? We probably should have lost that game as well......Some of yall may actually want to watch the games........
Hahaha...do we watch the games? Do you? You just agreed with mitch mustain being the best qb in the sec! Bottom line, teams scored less under chavis. I think miles needs to go, but I don't think chavis' D was the problem last year. It is not the DCs fault if the offense can't pick up a first down. So...he should bring the house and risk giving up a touchdown? You're right! I'm sure our offense would have easily made those points because we were scoring at will last year(sarcasim). You talk about the Top in the UF game and how they ran up the field on us, but what would we have done with the ball! nothing! The D kept us a play away from winning a game with LSU basically playing no offense. He is a name coach for a reason, so let him coach.
How can you defend rushing 3 guys against the SEC's best passer? We probably should have lost that game as well......Some of yall may actually want to watch the games........
Hahaha...do we watch the games? Do you? You just agreed with mitch mustain being the best qb in the sec! Bottom line, teams scored less under chavis. I think miles needs to go, but I don't think chavis' D was the problem last year. It is not the DCs fault if the offense can't pick up a first down. So...he should bring the house and risk giving up a touchdown? You're right! I'm sure our offense would have easily made those points because we were scoring at will last year(sarcasim). You talk about the Top in the UF game and how they ran up the field on us, but what would we have done with the ball! nothing! The D kept us a play away from winning a game with LSU basically playing no offense. He is a name coach for a reason, so let him coach.
Posted on 2/5/10 at 5:24 am to jamiehoward6
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You just agreed with mitch mustain being the best qb in the sec!
Mitch Mustain is one of the backup QB's at USC. Arkansas' QB is named Ryan Mallett.
As far as the Arkansas game all I have to say is: scoreboard.
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