Chavis -- just how much of a difference will he make?

With the consistent level of talent at LSU, and Gary Crowton as offensive coordinator ( with a semi-experience QB), we need a "Solid" DC to be on the national title discussion year in and year out. I believe the Chief can be that guy.

i know tenn defense always hit really really hard... in the SEC championship game the natl championship year, they were knocking our blocks off

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a DC is only as good as his players and as good as he teaches them to play. Does that make sense?

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Of course it does, which is why I reference that talented Tennessee team of 2001 and never adjusting to what we were doing...which was very simple.

It was not to cast Chavis as an idiot, but to temper some of the unrealstic and lofty accolades heaped upon a good guy and a solid coach.

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Of course many were touting Pellini as the best DC in the country a few years back and IMHO he was never in that argument.

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Exactly. Sure Pelini finished #3 in Defense 3 years runnin, but it was all done with smoke & mirrors according to teh Rant.

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. Sure Pelini finished #3 in Defense 3 years runnin, but it was all done with smoke & mirrors. Chavis is prolly worse. Neither have the sheer charisma of CNS whn you get right down to it..

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So you think Pellini was among the best DC's?

I still remember the last half of 2007 where our defense would have cost us a shot at the MNC if not for very fortunate dominoes falling all around us. We won despite our defense from the second half of the USC game on.

I remember the Arizona St. game and the second half of the Tennesse game his first year and playing 3 down in Gainesville in 2006. I could go on.

Never said he was bad, nor have I said Chavis is bad. Both were/are solid.

Just IMHO not among the elite. Both good enough if you have a good offense (which we always did when Pelline was there and will while Chavis is here) and talent to work with (which IMHO we had more than anyone under Pellini and will again under Chavis.)

Just because I won't tout them among the top 5 (and I don't) doesn't mean either are/were bad.

Just being practical and realistic IMHO.

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I actually think the best of the DC's are actually head coaches who really run thier defenses and their DC's are just figureheads.

Carrol, Stoops and Saban. I'd put Mickey Andrews up there too. And I know most have universally panned Chizik at Auburn but I think he'll prove to be that at Auburn...that dude was a very good DC IMHO.

Fire away!!

Signed, Utah

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