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Charles Turner Accepts Senior Bowl Invite

Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:42 am
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:42 am
Official from Reese’s Senior Bowl post. Unless I missed it.. first time hearing that he’s heading to draft.
Posted by ATLSUfan
Atlanta
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:43 am to
That makes Martinez leaving kinda strange , guess he felt he would get passed up by someone else
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:45 am to
Posted by BigTiger80
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
1179 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:48 am to
Best of luck to him. Any idea who would replace him next season?
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
Member since Feb 2012
834 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:49 am to
Makes sense why they’re pushing for Coen Echols TX OL, even with an already deep OL class
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 7:50 am
Posted by saturncube21
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:53 am to
Good luck, young man
Posted by classicgold
bfe
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:54 am to
DJ Chester. His natural talent combined with all Vets surrounding him should make for a really good OL.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 7:55 am to
quote:

That makes Martinez leaving kinda strange , guess he felt he would get passed up by someone else


Chester replaced him in the game where Turner was injured. Was that against Mizzou? But I do remember Martinez played poorly in relief and had a very bad snap. Kelly benched him and let him have it on the sideline. Chester finished the game and played better. I think the writing was on the wall after that.

After that, the next time I saw Martinez play was as a sub at Guard.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 7:57 am
Posted by BIG Texan
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
1596 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:37 am to
Good he sucked bad in the Bama game.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
3942 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:42 am to
quote:

That makes Martinez leaving kinda strange , guess he felt he would get passed up by someone else


I think Chester is that guy.
This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 8:43 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278387 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 8:43 am to
Martinez is way too big to be a Center
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
6951 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:24 am to
Good luck to him, but he was our weakest link on the oline IMO.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14895 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:34 am to
Yea his game against Bama brought back Les miles oline type games vs them.

Two false starts and he had so many slow and bad snaps. His play really hurt the O
Posted by Codythetiger
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2006
27580 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 9:40 am to
Kinda indifferent with Charles. If he came back that would be what, 3 straight years of the same O-line? that's a lot of chemistry built up

at the same time, some of the younger guys have more ability and talent.

good luck to the young man, alteast he actually stuck around and earned his spot
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Martinez is way too big to be a Center


Don't you think Chester is a tad tall and lean to be ready to start there next year? I was really surprised they put him there just based on his height. Not that you can't be 6'5" and play there, just not ideal. I don't knowj this by any means, but it felt to me like they that was a move to get their best 5/6 in the lineup either if Turner went down this year or if he went pro (like he's doing) and everybody else comes back and that's the only real opening to get Chester in the lineup.

Like they think Chester is going to be one of the most talented 5 or 6 OL in '24, but even though Center is not his ideal position or where he projects long-term, they are willing to play him out of position. Or was it strictly a '23 move because they weren't comfortable with Martinez if Turner went down for a significant amount of time and didn't want to move Dellinger over after last year's experiment?

Will Chester put on the weight to match his height, be strong enough and technique-sound enough to get leverage on and be able to move some of the monster SEC DTs he'll have to face, and will he be able to handle all the mental responsibilities that come with the center spot. Or will they shuffle them around some? But that would take away from one of the huge advantages next year's team should have with continuity on the OL--4 of those guys have played a lot of games and snaps together at their current positions. Or will they bring in a vet and sit Chester and Heard again as the 6th and 7th guys? Or has Chester always projected as a Center, and I don't know what I'm talking about?
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29440 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:20 am to
That’s a lot of center talk lol
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:35 am to
quote:

If he came back that would be what, 3 straight years of the same O-line? that's a lot of chemistry built up


Even without Charles, the other 4 guys have built up a lot of chemistry and that could literally be the biggest strength of next year's team. Is Chester ready to just slide in there at Center and keep it moving? The vets surrounding him could help. But then what about Heard? He was pretty open about wanting to come in and play right away. Would he sit for a 2nd year and not get pissed off and leave? Not that you can make decisions that might make your current team slightly worse to placate to an individual player, but there's such a balancing act these coaches are having to do with highly rated guys. Not just for Heard for example, but the next Heard is watching too.

I do think it's clear that even though Kelly played Will and Emory at the tackle spots as true freshman, that is not what he wants to do at all. Will was just a freak and ready, Emory wasn't too far behind, but it was more out of necessity that they both played. Just looking at the OL that Kelly recruited at ND and has continued to recruit here, it looks like his prototype is tall, athletic guys that he can add weight to and play them in multiple positions.

But that's a process, and I think ideally, he wants and OLD OL. He'll play guys he can't keep off the field, but in a perfect world his OL would be made up of 21-22-year-old JRs and SRs. Because they're more "men." and I think that gives you a bigger advantage there than any other position on the field save for maybe QB. But will that model work with the portal and NIL? Can he sell a Lance Heard on waiting until his 3rd year to start?


Just throwing this out as a possibility because people have seemed to assume they were eventually gonna move Jones to RG and slide Heard in at RT not just to get them both on the field, but because maybe Jones projects more as an IOL at the NFL level, but is there any chance Jones moves to Center next year? I'm not sure he'd do it or if it's even ideal, but there are a couple of potential pros to it.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 10:54 am to
quote:

That’s a lot of center talk lol



No doubt. And I'm sure I'll be eating plenty of downvotes.

But it's really more about the entire OL, not just next year's, but moving forward. Will Kelly's model of how to build an older, athletic OL work in today's CFB. Because I think his ideal model would require buy-in from really talented guys to wait longer to start than they'd probably like to. But it would pay off for them in the long-run.
Posted by ATLTiger
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Member since Sep 2003
44562 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Or has Chester always projected as a Center, and I don't know what I'm talking about?


I think this is it

quote:

Will Chester put on the weight to match his height


He's 6'6"/ 320 per his bio, how big do you want him?

For comparison, that's what Pocic is listed at in the NFL right now, and he was listed as 6'7"/ 300 his senior year at LSU.
Posted by Gumpsbleaux
Texas
Member since Jan 2021
165 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 11:25 am to
Chester has always projected to center. Being tall is also not a disadvantage at center, just look at how good of a career Ethan Pocic has had
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