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re: Chad Jones hit was NOT helmet to helmet

Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:31 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:31 am to
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It is immpossible for a football player not to make contact with another player without the head making first contact.........Unless the football player turns his face and inhibits himself from viewing the tackle he has to lead with his head.........the proper technique is to maintain visual with the facemask and helmet making contact with the outside shoulder or, ideally, the football. Do not try to dispute this as I've proven above the NFL and on down teach it this way.



obviously you do not know what "defenseless" means
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:32 am to
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the penatly is not called leading with the helmet..........ITS CALLED HELMET TO HELMET.


And the NCAA added to this rule any blow directed toward the helmet.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:33 am to




Posted by tigerclicks
San Antonio, Tx.
Member since Jan 2008
620 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:33 am to
This is tackle football right? How do you hit someone without putting your head down and hitting with your shoulder? BS call. Shouldn't be penalized for making one of the best hits ever. I was in the north end zone and helped that field goal go wide right. Your welcome! Great stick Chad...
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:34 am to
you are a douche bag flamer. You are wrong and I wish that chad could demonstrate that hit on you personally.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:34 am to
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obviously you do not know what "defenseless" means


and Obviously if he doesn't hit the "defenseless" WR it's a catch.

Should he have just tapped him instead since he was "defenselessly" trying to catch the football?

Come on.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 12:36 am
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:35 am to
shut up you arky pussy and go cry on an arkansas site
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:38 am to
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and Obviously if he doesn't hit the "defenseless" WR it's a catch.

Should he have just tapped him instead since he was "defenselessly" trying to catch the football?

Come on.


I dont make the rules.

you are showing these pictures of tackling, which is fine.

however, none of those ball carriers are in a defenseless position, so naturally the rule doesnt apply. I dont see what is so hard to understand about that.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:38 am to
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you are a douche bag flamer. You are wrong and I wish that chad could demonstrate that hit on you personally.



is that all you are going to add?

why dont you tell me how I am wrong?
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:39 am to
i did at he beginning of the thread. try reading
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:39 am to
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however, none of those ball carriers are in a defenseless position, so naturally the rule doesnt apply. I dont see what is so hard to understand about that.


So how do you tackle someone who has there hands up to make a catch? What is the defender to do? Is he suppose to stick his hands out to make contact first?

You are coached to tackle the way he did it......wrapping up as you so eloquently pointed out would have finished the play.......but he didn't his momentum wrapped him up for him........

I don't understand how a defender can approach a WR trying to catch a football without doing what Chad did.........sorry dude.
This post was edited on 11/29/09 at 12:41 am
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
14804 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:40 am to
He did blow that fricker up though!!! This year all in NCAA big hits like that are getting called. I wish they'd let them play if it has an impact on if the ball is caught. Late hits or early ones are not called for at all.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288027 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:42 am to
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So how do you tackle someone who has there hands up to make a catch? What is the defender to do? Is he suppose to stick his hands out to make contact first?


I didnt write the rule.

You obviously can do just about anything else.

A)make a play on the ball
b)lead with your shoulder
c)hit him in his torso
d)try and jar the ball loose as he catches it


i dont know if u are being a smartass, its not that hard to understand
Posted by Lester Earl
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Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:43 am to
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i did at he beginning of the thread. try reading



i skip over posts by rantards

now that u have my attention, you can say it again or STFU
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:44 am to
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b)lead with your shoulder


Chad chose option B........the head always comes first.......
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:45 am to
L S Usetheforce

you are as wise as yoda on this one
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288027 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:48 am to
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Chad chose option B........the head always comes first.......



to properly lead with your shoulder you must turn your body sideways in a way that your head doesnt come first

people do it all the time. You lead with your shoulder and launch yourself and it has the same affect, with no penalty
Posted by lsuguy13
RIP MATT
Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:49 am to
It was sick
Posted by jwall3
Member since Jun 2008
3029 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:51 am to
are you being purposefully obtuse? The head is connected to the shoulders. Helmets make contact incidentally on most every tackle. Chad Jones hit the man in the shoulder with his shoulder. Go back and watch an HD replay. The only reason the guys helmet cam off at all is because he didn't snap his chin strap on.
Posted by L S Usetheforce
Member since Jun 2004
23230 posts
Posted on 11/29/09 at 12:51 am to
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people do it all the time. You lead with your shoulder and launch yourself and it has the same affect, with no penalty


Nah usually the effect is a missed tackle and the player bouncing off.....because for one to lead with the shoulder from that approach you lose valuable velocity and momentum upon contact........

How bout this, you enjoy the rulebook and I will enjoy a great football play..........night.
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