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Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:30 am to waslb22
I always thought he would be used like Burton is used at Florida, RP was used for us in 2007 (when Flynn was not hurt and RP was used more as a regular QB), or Tebow was used for Florida in 2006.
The one thing he could learn from Jefferson is that sometimes you have cut it straight up the field in the first hole you see even if it might just be a small gain and then maybe once past line of scrimmage and initial wave of tacklers try to get outside to make the big play.
JJ has gotten better in the zone read at making a quick decision on where to run and then hitting the hole fairly fast. Last year it seems RS would try to beat everybody outside when running wildcat. Not sure if that was the coach's call or if he still thinks he can outrun everybody like in high school, but he needs to run inside more and take what he can get instead of bouncing outside trying to beat everyone to the edge every play. Ingram and Cam both have made big plays taking the shotgun snap being patient, waiting for blocking to develop and then hitting inside hole quickly and then cutting outside 3 or 4 yards past line of scrimmage.
He has run inside as a rb a little, so I know he will do it. He just needs to do it more when lined up as the qb in the wildcat.
The one thing he could learn from Jefferson is that sometimes you have cut it straight up the field in the first hole you see even if it might just be a small gain and then maybe once past line of scrimmage and initial wave of tacklers try to get outside to make the big play.
JJ has gotten better in the zone read at making a quick decision on where to run and then hitting the hole fairly fast. Last year it seems RS would try to beat everybody outside when running wildcat. Not sure if that was the coach's call or if he still thinks he can outrun everybody like in high school, but he needs to run inside more and take what he can get instead of bouncing outside trying to beat everyone to the edge every play. Ingram and Cam both have made big plays taking the shotgun snap being patient, waiting for blocking to develop and then hitting inside hole quickly and then cutting outside 3 or 4 yards past line of scrimmage.
He has run inside as a rb a little, so I know he will do it. He just needs to do it more when lined up as the qb in the wildcat.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:41 am to P bean
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what do you think the wildcat consists of?
yes, the wildcat is where you either give or keep to a sweeping RB....but most of their play were where he read the DE and either kept or gave to a TB that was standing still next to him running off tackle....thats the zone read...
yes i know malzahn was the oc at Arky, and i know he ran the wildcat there with RBs!!....the zone read is what most oc's run with a running QB...ala shep in high school...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:50 am to TigerFan55555
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yes, the wildcat is where you either give or keep to a sweeping RB....but most of their play were where he read the DE and either kept or gave to a TB that was standing still next to him running off tackle....thats the zone read...
Yeh no shite, what do you think Mcfadden used to do when he either handed off or faked to hand off to Hillis up the middle...
Go sit down arse-hole your arguing semantics, call it whatever you want, Auburn ran the same offensive Arky ran against us in 07, lead by the same offensive coordinator, Gus Malzahn with the same gameplan, run all day and pass every blue moon
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 11:51 am
Posted on 10/25/10 at 11:54 am to TigerFan55555
auburn runs a power zone read, not the wildcat. and when you have a QB is a true dual-threat like Newton, it works a lot better. but most people complain about JJ's inaccuracy, what makes you think Shepards will be any better?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:03 pm to RelientAA
Let's get RS the ball more. Why?
He doesn't break tackles.
With our Oline we need guys that can break tackles.
He doesn't break tackles.
With our Oline we need guys that can break tackles.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:10 pm to RelientAA
I know its high school and not the sec, but these throws seem on the mark regardless. Many of the throws are hitting the receivers in stride. And ftr, Texas 5A football tends to have a good reputation. I can only wonder is the kid that is throwing these throws really worse than what we have now??? I just don't understand why he hasn't at least gotten a series. I guess he must do absolutely horrible in practice for them to not even give him a shot...
Throws start at 2:19
Throws start at 2:19
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:11 pm to Dead Mike
I think #10 has become a great decoy. That's about it. The misuse of talent on the O astounds me. When Mettenberger gets on campus they'll probably move him to linebacker.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:12 pm to WavinWilly
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WavinWilly
Your user name is the name I gave to the guy who stands on Alvin Dark everyday and waves to people driving by. Not sure if anyone has seen him, but it's pretty funny.
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:12 pm to WavinWilly
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WavinWilly
Give it up. There is a reason why no other school was willing to give him a legit shot at QB. Why do you think they let Ware throw instead of Shepard?
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:15 pm to WavinWilly
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:15 pm to Hank Marducas
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Your user name is the name I gave to the guy who stands on Alvin Dark everyday and waves to people driving by. Not sure if anyone has seen him, but it's pretty funny.
Haha that's where the name came from. He makes my day every day I pass.
/hijack
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:20 pm to RelientAA
quote:
Can we please use #10
auburn runs a power zone read, not the wildcat. and when you have a QB is a true dual-threat like Newton, it works a lot better
thank you
quote:
but most people complain about JJ's inaccuracy, what makes you think Shepards will be any better?
this is the reason why...
LINK
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:25 pm to RelientAA
quote:
auburn runs a power zone read, not the wildcat
FALSE.
They run both.
Do you recall when the tv commentators pointed out where Auburn lined up with a TE and a Guard on one side of the center, and a guard and two Tackles on the other?
That, my friend, is most definitely the wildcat formation.
On the same play they ran the jet motion from weak side to strong and Newton faked the give and ran up the middle.
You remember the heisman highlight run that Cam made?
Also from the unbalanced O-line wildcat formation.
When the line was balanced (Tackle Guard Center Guard Tackle), they were running the zone read.
When it was unbalanced (TE Guard Center Guard Tackle Tackle)
It was the Wildcat.
Both were run frequently
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:25 pm to clamdip
quote:
i gots links, too.
Oh I get the fact that he's not the best QB in the world. He wasn't even the best QB on that one day on those drills... but We don't have Barkley or any of those other QB's on our team. I wasn't implying that he was the best QB at the Under Armor game; the comparison is between Shep, Lee, and Jefferson...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:30 pm to tigerbait98
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Both were run frequently
i know you were talking to the other poster but i was trying to say that most of the time they were running the zone read...yes, i know they ran the wildcat as well but most of the time its power zone read...
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:34 pm to WavinWilly
Hahaha dude is crazy!
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:38 pm to TigerFan55555
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i know you were talking to the other poster but i was trying to say that most of the time they were running the zone read...yes, i know they ran the wildcat as well but most of the time its power zone read...
The problem I have is when people claim, "it was a zone read offense" or it was "the wildcat" when, in most cases, people dont even know how to differentiate the two. Look for the unbalanced O-line to tell the difference.
Watch this. Around :50 into this video he highlights the unbalanced tackles that give the wildcat its advantage
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:39 pm to TigerFan55555
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Both were run frequently
i know you were talking to the other poster but i was trying to say that most of the time they were running the zone read...yes, i know they ran the wildcat as well but most of the time its power zone read
Bottom line - the "wildcat" is not a fad that is diminishing and that defensive coaches know how to stop. It is being run by the #1 team in the country right now with efficiency and so far not one DC has been able to defend it.
This post was edited on 10/25/10 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 10/25/10 at 12:43 pm to RT1941
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Bottom line - the "wildcat" is not a fade that is diminishing and that defensive coaches know how to stop. It is being run by the #1 team in the country right now with efficiency and so far not one DC has been able to defend it.
This.
Even if it is run exclusively, ie Arky w/Mcfadden, its hard to stop, given the right personel. Auburn is tough because they run this AND the zone read very well.
Also, Bama with Ingram in the Wildtide in addition to the pistol and traditional power-I.
The key is balance, and Bama and Auburn do it very well
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