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re: Can we give props to O for delivering on his promise?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:13 am to Flashtiger
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:13 am to Flashtiger
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bullshite Rick, you more than most can't stop with the underhanded constant slights at Orgeron. Although someone at lodge (Les Miles) has told you to calm down, you still can't help yourself.
its amazing how stating facts about Ed Orgeron is still deemed bashing O.
I'm excited about this staff, including O but that doesn't change his past before being named lsu's head coach. whether you like it or not O has never had success running a program. That statement in no way is a shite at O. it's a fact and in no way means he can't or won't be successful here.
just like it's a fact that we lost to inferior teams under miles.
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:17 am to Flashtiger
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LSU has done this inspite of the bumbling moron Les Miles. What you Les Miles apologist never address is the fact of these stats you sport to prove Miles' value, it is these records, and stats that prove anyone could have done the same, and better with the brand, and resources of LSU (AT THIS TIME). It has taken Emmert, and Satan to show the college football world the dangerous sleeping giant that is LSU.Les Miles has done NOTHING but ride the coat tail of LSU all the way in the ground. Les Miles is nothing to college football, and after the shine off of his new promotion at lodge wears off, no one will know his name shortly. A complete coaching impostor fraud propped up only by his........lodge rin
holy shite.
so using this logic is miles responsible for O's future success or are you one of those football ignorant posters that doesn't apply the same logic to each coach?
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Les Miles has done NOTHING but ride the coat tail of LSU all the way in the ground
if by nothing you mean one of the most accomplished tenures in sec history, then sure nothing.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:23 am to beauxroux
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I don't agree that an OC or DC is more qualified to be a Head Coach than an successful interim coach.
they are when the interim coach was beneath not coordinators. and let's be honest, 3 of the 4 coordinators during O's interim tenures where 4 games into their coordinator careers at those schools.
no one boasts of interim tenure success.
surely you realize successful coordinators are more coveted than successful interim tenures or ed orgeron wouldve been offered a job after usc.
ed orgeron is our coach and I support him but I'm not gonna sit here and act like he was the best coach we couldve gotten just because he is cajun. there was a person on staff with a better resume than O and were dozens of HC and coordinators more qualified than O. there is a reason that he is one of the lowest paid HC in the sec and it's not because of a home town discount.
I've never called O a bumbling idiot or an imbecile. I've never questioned his football knowledge. I've only ever questioned his qualification to getting one of the most demanding jobs in cfb. period.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:25 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:24 am to Flashtiger
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You Les Miles nut lickers are desperate now that Coach O is about to embarrass everything that is the fraud Les Miles.
Whoah...hold on.
Miles is not a fraud. I'm a "Miles nut licker" as you say. The man was a great coach. I was sad to see him go.
I will admit that I wanted O to get the head job last year. Many people on this site have an interest in seeing O fail, but it has nothing to do with Miles. They just didn't get the guy they wanted hired and want a chance to say "I told you so".
This thread was never meant to be an attack on Miles. It was a chance for some to admit that O had done what many said they wanted in a new coach.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:26 am to Rickdaddy4188
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ed orgeron wouldve been offered a job after usc.
Many claim he didn't get it because the boosters felt like he didn't fit in with them.
He was too crass.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:27 am to magildachunks
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This thread was never meant to be an attack on Miles. It was a chance for some to admit that O had done what many said they wanted in a new coach.
and he has. I have zero gripes with anything he has done since being named lsu's head coach.
i take issue with poster like Bengal99 that take this stance that he walked into a rebuidling situation.
it has to be one or the other.
you can't label miles an underachiever because of all this talent and then less than 7 months later claim O has to rebuild lsu. it's one or the other.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:29 am to magildachunks
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Many claim he didn't get it because the boosters felt like he didn't fit in with them.
He was too crass.
I meant after USC went another direction.
if interim tenures were such a great way to gauge a coach's ability to run a program, o wouldve had mutiple offers at coordinator and hc,but he didnt.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:30 am to rsbd
Did anyone think he looked a little nervous in the 4th?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:31 am to bayou85
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Did anyone think he looked a little nervous in the 4th?
game was never in doubt in the 4th. I'm sure he wanted us to look good in the 1st game of the year.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 7:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
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if interim tenures were such a great way to gauge a coach's ability to run a program, o wouldve had mutiple offers at coordinator and hc,but he didnt.
80-90% of successful hires depends on being a good fit. O wasn't a good fit at a lot of places, including Ole Miss. just like Belichik wasn't a good fit at the Browns.
Miles and O are good fits at LSU. I don't think Herman would have been a good fit here, a Fisher is at his perfect fit now.
People claim they want high-tempo offense, but the football culture here leans more towards power and a focus on strong defense. That's why O fits better here.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:15 am to magildachunks
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80-90% of successful hires depends on being a good fi
good coaches have some success at lots of places. I'd like someone to explain how a coach that wouldn't be a top 5 candidate at vandy, miss st, bama, Ohio State was somehow a good fit for lsu.
and again, the best coaches at any level of football,aren't hands off.
surely youre not suggesting a 55 year old career position coach was the best fit for lsu's HC position.
now I will agree that nfl coaching is about fit because the coaching style has to mix with the gm
but cfb isnt about fit. it's about recruiting and coaching. good coaches can go to different programs and have success.
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just like Belichik wasn't a good fit at the Browns.
he was. he was fired after the move
he took he browns to their 1st playoff birth in the previous 20 years.
but, I have no problem with anything O has done while being lsu's HC. I'm just of the opinion that there were dozens of.coacges and coordinators more qualified for the job and I feel Aranda wouldve been a better hire at lsu.
there is a reason multiple p5 programs have hired him and in 32 years only 2 times has an ad offered O anything above position coach.
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People claim they want high-tempo offense, but the football culture here leans more towards power and a focus on strong defense. That's why O fits better here.
what proof do you have that O can run a successful defense?
he never in his life run a successful side of the ball. in fact his LSU selling point was getting out of the way. that's not something good coaches do
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 8:18 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
You are 90 percent of the posts on this page you miles loving bitch.
Stahp. He isn't part of LSU anymore. Or will be again.
Deal with it.
Stahp. He isn't part of LSU anymore. Or will be again.
Deal with it.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:27 am to CptBengal
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You are 90 percent of the posts on this page you miles loving bitch.
100% of all your posts are about miles bitch.
I skimmed your page the other day and zero posts in the 1st 6 pages had any discussion about football. every single post was about miles.
I'm sorry you caught miles in a threesome with your mom and wife.
let it go.
I'll be at the Chattanooga game of youd like to show me im a bitch but we all know youre just running your dick sucker behind a keyboard
unlike you I can discuss other things besides miles. my posts on this page are about O. but hey don't facts get in the way of you being ignorant. you never do.
the post you ignorantly replied to doesnt have the word,"miles" in it.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 8:37 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:32 am to magildachunks
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Can we give props to O for delivering on his promise?
Did great last year after he took over and great this year. Seems to be the perfect fit for LSU. Looking back at it, considering who all was available, I don't think we could have gotton a better HC for LSU. Every LSU fan has to be a little giddy right now.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:34 am to boxcar willie
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Did great last year after he took over and great this year. Seems to be the perfect fit for LSU. Looking back at it, considering who all was available, I don't think we could have gotton a better HC for LSU
what? you have no idea who wouldve come here. Alleva went after the 2 obvious choices in Herman and fisher and then gave it to o. no one else was contacted.
I'll wait until at least a few sec games before claiming he is the perfect fit, but I liked what I saw Saturday for sure.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 8:35 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:37 am to Rickdaddy4188
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what? you have no idea who wouldve come here. Alleva went after the 2 obvious choices in Herman and fisher and then gave it to o. no one else was contacted.
How many were interviewed before Miles was named head coach?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:43 am to magildachunks
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How many were interviewed before Miles was named head coach?
Saban left 1 month before signing day with 10 recruits committed, not 4 games into a season.
surely you see that's a huge difference.
also miles had had some succes at turning a shite program( at the time,because Oklahoma State
wasnt always that bad) into a respectable program.
and I wasnt thrilled with miles being hired eother so I'm not saying O can't prove he wasn't the right move, I'm saying clearly there were dozens of more qualified coaches.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 9/8/17 at 8:48 am to magildachunks
surely you can agree it's not a good hiring practice for lsu to always hire a coach that has never been a successful coordinator and never been a successful head coach.
surely you realize that's not something LSU AD's should be doing.
surely you realize that's not something LSU AD's should be doing.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:01 am to magildachunks
How about let's give credit to Ed Orgeron for being a professional, and successful football coach who has done nothing but win, and change the direction, and image of LSU football. Anyone believing that Coach O doesn't run this ship, and set the standards for his coordinators is delusional. If Canada shits the bed, he will be replaced. If Canada does indeed gets overwhelmed, it will be Ed Orgeron who bails out the offense.
Ed Orgeron is NOT the grossly incompetent Les Miles who is absolutely nothing without the brand, and resources of LSU. Ed Orgeron is well seasoned, and competent to lead LSU back to the top of college football. Les Miles on the other hand would continue shutting his pants pretending to coach football if given this team back to his as is.
Ed Orgeron is NOT the grossly incompetent Les Miles who is absolutely nothing without the brand, and resources of LSU. Ed Orgeron is well seasoned, and competent to lead LSU back to the top of college football. Les Miles on the other hand would continue shutting his pants pretending to coach football if given this team back to his as is.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 9:11 am to Flashtiger
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How about let's give credit to Ed Orgeron for being a professional, and successful football coach who has done nothing but win, and change the direction, and image of LSU football.
let's let a couple seasons past before you say he changed some direction. if we don't win 10 games 4 of the next 6 seasons he won't have even achieved what the imbecile Miles did( and if we play the mcneese game it's 5 of the last 6 years).
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Anyone believing that Coach O doesn't run this ship,
who is denying that O is running this program?
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it will be Ed Orgeron who bails out the offense.
by doing what? in 32 years he has never once had an offensive job. last year he let a te coach call plays.
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Ed Orgeron is NOT the grossly incompetent Les Miles who is absolutely nothing without the brand,
you do realize that Miles took over a far worse situation at Oklahoma State than O did at ole miss and miles had them winnimg 8&9 games , while O was having the worst tenure ever at a program full of shite tenures, right?
miles is one of the most accomplished coaches in sec history,let alone lsu history(FACT).
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Orgeron is well seasoned, and competent to lead LSU back
as proven by what? you literally have zero facts to back this statement up
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Les Miles on the other hand would continue shutting his pants pretending to coach football if given this team back to his as is
les miles' resume before lsu shits on ed orgeron's entire resume. fact.
never in ed Orgeron's life has he run a successful program for any sustained period of time.
while miles took over a program with 1 winning season from 1989-2001 and had then recruiting at another level and winning 7,8,&9 games.
facts
FACT: for 90% of his career no ad has thought enough of his coaching to offer him a coordinators job, let alone a HC job.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 9:14 am
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