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Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:04 pm to Madking
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You can have both opinions and they not be contradictory.
I disagree. When using one to bash the other or make a point for hiring one and not the other then come up with the bullshite backtracking he did today, it is contradictory. He's hated the CEO hire the whole time and has not missed any opportunity to express his feelings. Now TODAY, he is okay with it and hopes he is successful. frick Rich-Momma and the gay guy he wants to ride with.
I don't know if you bash Eaux or not but if you do you must do it much better than Rich-Momma.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:11 pm to Tiger Ree
We are talking about two different things. What I said was its not impossible to think both O and Herman are good coaches. I've never once bashed coach O and I'm 100% behind him. The anti O ppls comments are all double standard BS and exaggerations. They'll tell you he's a career position coach but so was Urban Meyer before he was a head coach they'll tell you he's never run a successful side of the ball but neither did Les Miles Kevin Sumlin or Dabo Sweeney. They'll argue that previously being a coordinator better prepares you to be a head coach than actually being a head coach. These people have never coached at any level in their lives and know nothing about the job or what it is. They have a lowest common denominator formula for what they believe makes a good coach and it couldn't be more wrong. Even if O has success they're gonna take shots at him every chance they get because they'll be but hurt and wrong, then you'll see their true hypocrisy come out.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:15 pm to Madking
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They'll tell you he's a career position coach but so was Urban Meye[/quote have been through this. UM was not hired at a p5 program after being a career position coach. he was also not 32 years into his coaching career.
[quote]e's never run a successful side of the ball but neither did Les Miles
miles had proven he can run a successful p5 program before coming to lsu.
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They'll argue that previously being a coordinator better prepares you to be a head coach than actually being a head coach
being a successful coordinator proves you can run a successful side of the ball. being shite head coach for an prove you can be a successful head coach
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These people have never coached at any level in their lives and know nothing about the job or what it is.
I hope I'm not in this category brother.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:17 pm to LSUFord
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Sure looked like Orgeron wanted to take the points on the 1 yard line and Canada told him to frick himself and they went for it.
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Looked to me like the opposite. Seemed like Canada wanted to take the points, and O over-rid hm.
Look at y'all over analyzing. No one has a single clue of what was going on.Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:17 pm to Tiger Ree
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s. Now TODAY, he is okay with it and hopes he is successful. frick Rich-Momma and the gay guy he wants to ride with.
look at this little bitch get his feeling hurt because someone pointed out his dad's lack of experience.
the entire off season you begged like a whore for people to give him a chance now youre running your dick sucker because I have given him the chance?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:18 pm to Nix to Twillie
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Look at y'all over analyzing. No one has a single clue of what was going on.
no one knows who wanted what. I for one liked what i saw offensively Saturday. clean up the penalties and the red zone execution and we are gonna be hard to stop
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:18 pm to Madking
I'm not even trying to get in this argument, but...
You have to realize the difference between Bowling Green hiring a position coach and LSU hiring one....right?
Was OC at Okie lite 1995-97
Was OC at aTm 2002 and Co-OC at oklahoma 2006-07
This stuff is on Wiki ya know?
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They'll tell you he's a career position coach but so was Urban Meyer before he was a head coach
You have to realize the difference between Bowling Green hiring a position coach and LSU hiring one....right?
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Les Miles
Was OC at Okie lite 1995-97
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Kevin Sumlin
Was OC at aTm 2002 and Co-OC at oklahoma 2006-07
This stuff is on Wiki ya know?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:21 pm to Rickdaddy4188
You're twisting what I said. Miles was never a successful coordinator before being given a HC job I didn't say anything about his hiring at LSU you're getting away from the point there. As far as being a successful coordinator better preparing you for being a HC than having a bad record as a HC that's 100% opinion on your part with no data to back it up which is the jist of all the anti O arguments. Josh Mcdaniels was a great OC and a horrible HC but Bill Bellicheck was a failed HC before his job in NE so got theory doesn't hold any water. And no my post wasn't directed at you personally.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:24 pm to SportTiger1
And you should learn reading comp. I know he was an OC I said successful OC which he wasn't. And using judgments on this school is more important that that school is window dressing and doesn't dispute or change the facts.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:26 pm to Madking
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Miles was never a successful coordinator before being given a HC job
surely you know the difference between the two programs making the hire. that matters. if lsu was coming off sanctions and had 1 winning season from 1989-2001(Oklahoma state when they hired miles) no one would be that upset at hiring a career position coach.
in the last 15 years we have 2 national titles, 3 title game appearances. the current status of the program hiring the career position coach matters.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:28 pm to Madking
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s far as being a successful coordinator better preparing you for being a HC than having a bad record as a HC that's 100% opinion on your part with no data to back it up which is the jist of all the anti O argument
that's just not true. sport tiger did the research a while back. no hc that had as bad a win % as O did at ole miss (his 1st head coaching stop)EVER went on to win a title.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Yes I know the difference in the two programs but again that isn't the point. What you're doing is using a form of celebrity to cloud the actual facts. Dont you think Oklahoma State fans think Miles hire there was more important than Os hire here? Again that's judgment by opinion to skew reality. I'm with you that O wasn't my first choice but when you take a step back and realize the spot Alieva had us in we were lucky he hired him instead of Fedora or Mendenhall or whittingham you guys are just hung up on things that are way past us now.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:30 pm to Madking
this really doesn't matter. O is the head coach of the progran we love and we all want him to succeed. I think we all liked what we saw this past Saturday except for a few correctable issues.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:32 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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the entire off season you begged like a whore for people to give him a chance now youre running your dick sucker because I have given him the chance?
Wrong again. How many times is that today?
Damn, you are dumb. I have never said or asked anyone to give him a chance. I just pointed out to idiots like you and Sporty that LSU has a good coach and all you had to do was look at his stints at USC and LSU to realize it.
The dick sucker is the head coach at UT that you wanted to be the coach of LSU. How's it going for him over there? Did he beat the 18.5 dog he played by 20 or more?
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because I have given him the chance?
Who's that the gay guy who the team's fans loved so much they were throwing stuff on the field last weekend to show their approval? Yeah, he's GREAT isn't he. I sure wish he was at LSU. Sarcasm, it's a hell of a drug.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:32 pm to Tiger Ree
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Curious minds want to know. I guess it's just an innate ability that I have. It was actually pretty easy though. Coach Eaux took over two unranked teams who had fired their head coach. After he took over they played better, became ranked and went to bowl games.
And he had his own team before that and the were worse than they were before he got there. Why do his positive results carry more weight than his negative results?
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As far as Herman, you just look at win loss record and I look at stuff like the fact that he beat a 1-7 in conference Tulane and gained 287 total yards offense. And that is with him being an offensive guru. So yes it was a win. Impressive or even acceptable, HELL NO !!!
In both cases I'm looking at the entire body of work, not cherry picking statistics that help to prove whatever point I'm trying to make.
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Yes, last season his record was decent. but when you consider he had more talent than every team he played but two, is it really decent?
I don't really know how much talent he had. I assume it was better but don't know by how much. He wasn't sending a bunch of guys to the NFL, we know that much.
Even if we accept your premise that he loses to lesser talented teams, so does every team eventually. Whenever Bama loses they're losing to a lesser talented team. Same goes for Ohio State. Doesn't mean their coaches are bums.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:33 pm to Madking
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Yes I know the difference in the two programs but again that isn't the point.
that's the entire point. if lsu had won more than 6 games just once in the last decade no one would be so upset about hiring a career position coach. but since the turn of the century we have been one of the most successful programs in cfb. we as one of the most successful programs in cfb should be above hiring position coaches with zero experience as a successful coordinator and zero experience as a successful head coach.
This post was edited on 9/8/17 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:34 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Agree and like I said I'm with you on the overall judgment of the hire initially. But once I had more information about what took place and how out of his league Alleva was I thought we actually got lucky. We almost lost Aranda and had someone like Fedora or Whittingham then how would you have felt?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:36 pm to Tiger Ree
just shut up youre stupid. you never even talk about the actual sport of football. tell your pops he did great hiring Canada. and yes all off season you begged people to give your dad a chance
Posted on 9/8/17 at 5:36 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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no one knows who wanted what
Ha Ha Ha, yeah, nobody could tell you weren't biased against the LSU head coach during the offseason. NOBODY !!!!
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for one liked what i saw offensively Saturday
Sucks doesn't it. All that bashing and LSU looked good and the gay guy got his shite handed to him and has now pissed off pretty much his entire fanbase. TOO BAD !!!
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clean up the penalties and the red zone execution and we are gonna be hard to stop
Well that and you play San Jose State this weekend. 25 point favorite, you guys should win by 6 to 10 points. Good luck !!!
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