re: Can we agree that Miles is the greatest LSU football coach...ever?

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Completely forget about Bernie Moore? He set the table for transitioning LSU football from the "classic era" to the Golden Age.

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Bernie Moore was a little before my time; but that doesn't change the validity of my statement.

LSU has 3 recognized National Championships...3.
1...Dietzel
1...Saban
1...Miles

If LSU wins another this year, Miles has 2 (I'm not using "new math" here).

Since the end game is winning NCs, Mile with 2 Crystal Football trophies puts him above all the rest (just using plain common sense).

If being the best meant being in the hunt every year and being competitive, Cholly Mac would be the greatest coach of all time...but that's not the barometer for this particular question.

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This why is having more success than saban. both programs are built, saban got him a NC by buliding a great team, then What? lose to the guy maintaining 2 years straight?

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but look how fast he built Bama into a NC, Shula did a great job recruiting, but Saban quickly turned them into a NC, wanna know why because of great coaching. Another thing is Bama could have easily won that game Saturday, but they made the mistakes that sealed their doom. Assholes on here will argue, "well if Saban is such a great coach, how come they lost, well, a coach can only tell you what to do. It's up to you to go out and execute it. Saban wasn't the one missing the field goals, Saban wasn't the one throwing an INT that almost was TD. I'm glad they missed those FG's and Maze threw the PIC, but it was a great play by Reid to save the day, and I for one am super happy he did!

but I'm tired of arguing with stupid fricks like ACE and his bitch arse buddy Choctaw, it's a fricking waste of space. These two assclowns see what they want to. All I know is it was great situation for Miles to come to LSU, he didn't have to build an already established program. Just keep it going, and he has, my hat is off to him for that! but if you wanna kid yourself by sayin he is a good football coach go right ahead, idiots, like ACE and Choctaw seem to think he is. If Saban had stayed he may be workin on his 4th NC.

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is. If Saban had stayed he may be workin on his 4th NC

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Your proof of that is what?

He won a BCS at Bama after the 09 season? Why isn't he working on his 3rd at Bama?

Bad breaks? Team just can't play up to his coaching.

(You were secretly rooting for Bama on Saturday. You don't have to admit it. We already know.)

ETA: tubuCOOCOO for Coco Puffs (and Saban)

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it. Saban wasn't the one missing the field goals, Saban wasn't the one throwing an INT that almost was TD. I'm glad they missed those FG's and Maze threw the PIC, but it was a great play by Reid to save the day, and I for one am super happy he did!

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So you're saying the players recruited, developed and coached by Saban "underperformed" those recruited, developed and coached by Miles? At BDS? And Saban is still the greatest coach, probably in CFB history and Miles should not even be considered a good coach?

Sounds pretty CooCoo to me.

U know its true already

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You don't give Mac even partial credit for this?

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You make a good point. Mac's strongest suit was his defensive mind.

If you ever really studied the 1958 team, you come away realizing that Dietzel was a master motivational mind more so than a great coach. The Chinese bandits was Dietzel's idea. It transformed LSU into the power it was.

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If you ever really studied the 1958 team, you come away realizing that Dietzel was a master motivational mind more so than a great coach. The Chinese bandits was Dietzel's idea. It transformed LSU into the power it

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I have, that's why when people denigrate Mac's accomplishment, I cite those scores to illustrate that Mac should be given partial credit. That, combined with the screwing we got in 69 that would have at least given Mac the opportunity to play for a title (one that I, personally, think we would have won, on the field, too) - puts him in the same pantheon as Dietzel and Saban. He did coach 137 victories and 13 bowl appearances.

Some short-sighted "fans" try to put Arns above Mac, though they are fewer now than 10 to 15 years ago. Mac was great, just in a different way that Dietzel was great and Saban was great, for LSU that is.

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but if you wanna kid yourself by sayin he is a good football coach go right ahead, idiots,

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UMAD?

Coach Miles has beaten Nick Saban with Saban's players. And now Coach Miles is beating a great Alabama Football team with his own players. Some Bama Fans are calling this Bama team defense the best ever. And I suspect Les will beat Saban again next year with what we have returning.

So you know how the saying goes...He can beat you with his and then he can beat you with yours. Now that's a great Coach!

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Harder to 'build' than to 'maintain'

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Nope. Couldn't be more wrong. Clemson, K-State, Stanford, Houston, Oklahoma State, and others will prove that to you next season...

One good recruiting class and a few over achievers can give you a great season, but it is much harder to keep it going year after year.