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re: Can someone logically explain the -21 game spread?

Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:34 am to
Posted by armydude
Member since Aug 2014
995 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:34 am to
Troy
Posted by BilltheTiger
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2013
1066 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Odds are set so the gamblers betting will place half the total money on each team. Ideally each team will have the same amount of money wagered on it. When you see the original odds change it’s because too much money is coming in on one team. The bookmaker uses the money he gains from the losing team to pay off the gamblers on the winning team, keeping 10% for himself. So the odds are set not on any realistic appraisal of each team but on what the oddsmaker is perceiving the gamblers are thinking. The Miss St and Troy losses figure high in the brains of the gamblers. However, vast numbers of gamblers don’t follow LSU that carefully and don’t realize the current LSU level of play is diffferent than that appearing against Troy. Even a lot of LSU fans have trouble getting their minds around that fact.

This is the correct answer. Odds makers are setting there expectation of the score, they are setting the spread to try to get 50% to bet one way and 50% to bet the other. That way the bookie makes his 10%. Otherwise he has to cover the bet.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3442 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:41 am to
Losing to Troy at home? Losing to Moo St on the road by 30? I say getting 21 pts on the road at Bama is fair.
Posted by gettin there
La.
Member since Sep 2016
355 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:46 am to
"I'd be estatic if Canada didn't call first one all game....."


Can you run that one by me again?????????
Posted by JETigER
LSU 2011 National Champions
Member since Dec 2003
7081 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:46 am to
just like cholly mac had no depth to hang with bama.

This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by CapperVin
Member since Apr 2013
10617 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 11:57 am to
You remember losing to Troy?

What about getting steamrolled by Mississippi St?

Take your purple and gold glasses off and you will realize that the victories against Florida and Ole Miss mean absolutely nothing. Both programs are dumpster fires and we barely beat Florida and couldn't complete a pass to a WR against Ole Miss. How many passes do you think we will complete against Bama?

Some credit is due for beating an overrated Auburn team at home. Aranda saved O's arse that game with his halftime adjustments. Auburns staff is also incompetent which helped.

It's really easy to see why the spread is 21 and I'm kinda shocked that it's not more. O is lucky that the SEC is historically bad this yr or we would be going into this game with only 1 SEC win.

Oh, do yourself a favor and don't look at this years recruiting class that is filled to the brim with three stars. Are we suppose to have confidence in O's evaluations that he has unearthed all these sleepers this yr? I don't. What a coincidence that we are on track to have our worst recruiting class of the last decade during O's first year as head coach? But O can recruit
This post was edited on 10/31/17 at 11:58 am
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
15233 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Oh, do yourself a favor and don't look at this years recruiting class that is filled to the brim with three stars. Are we suppose to have confidence in O's evaluations that he has unearthed all these sleepers this yr? I don't. What a coincidence that we are on track to have our worst recruiting class of the last decade during O's first year as head coach? But O can recruit


Totally Agree. I know the state of La. is down this year but dang. There is still time but i dont see any bigtime OL or DL even mentioning LSU in the Top 3. IS O gonna just wait to LA. produces top OLine or dline prospects or rely on JUCO guys? Yeah i know stars are not the end all but we are getting out recruited by teams that are not even any good this year.
Posted by GVT
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2004
987 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:16 pm to
Alabama is REALLY good. LSU, not so much.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10349 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

Can someone logically explain the -21 game spread?

Because we are either going to win by 2 points or get slaughtered.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
16607 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 12:34 pm to
Vegas thinks that perception among those likely to wager on this game is that Bama is 3 TD's better than us. They want to get even money bet on the game so they want to set a line where they think that would happen.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
29402 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:09 pm to
Alabama is simply 3 touchdowns better than the Tigers.

However, using the Transitive Property of Football, I believe the game will play out thusly:

LSU won at Mississippi 40-26 (+14), rebalanced for HFA +18.
Alabama routed Ole Miss 66-3 (+63), rebalanced for HFA +59.

59-18=41, giving Bama a 4 point edge for HFA, they should win by 45.

Revised prediction for game:

LSU 10
Alabama 55
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
7004 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:13 pm to
Vegas thinks they can get good money on both sides.
Posted by Slip Screen
Magnolia, Texas
Member since Jan 2005
2154 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

We cannot throw a forward pass to a WR


This. We have essentially refused to develop a real passing game to compliment the run - which you must do to beat good teams.
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:31 pm to
Yes very simple.

LSU -21 vs Troy......Troy wins 24-21

Bama vs LSU would normally be BAMA -7..

Then they see the LSU vs Troy score, laugh, double check and laugh again. Then boom BAMA -21
Posted by JambalayaAintAllThat
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
210 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:35 pm to
(Saban IQ minus O IQ) /3.5 = Point Spread
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4864 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 1:40 pm to
A 21 point swing is what it takes to have the bets come in evenly.
Posted by ExpoTiger
Member since Jul 2014
7031 posts
Posted on 10/31/17 at 2:03 pm to
Different personnel. It’s not the uniform. It’s the person wearing it. Vegas thinks it’s a little more lopsided than it’s been in a while if for no other reason than youth and depth. Fortunately these factors do not solely determine the outcome.
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