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re: Can LSU's Dreams Come True? What If LSU Big Donors Contribute $100 Million for 10% Income?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:35 am to RB10
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:35 am to RB10
quote:See, there you go again. Trying to change the subject.quote:What I understand that you clearly don’t is that this isn’t meant to pay players. It’s meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses.quote:Well, it won't grow organically if the return is being used to pay players and investors. You do understand that, correct?
You do understand that this fund will grow in value, correct?
First, let's deal with your change of subject. You do understand that the fund won't grow organically if the return is being used to [help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses] and pay investors. You do understand that, correct?
Second, you say that the fund "isn’t meant to pay players. It’s meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses." What exactly do you think the expenses of the NIL collective donors are?
Third, if the investment fund is "meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses" then what you're really saying is that the investor's money will be used to pay the donors. Does that make sense to you?
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 11:43 am
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Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:36 am to RB10
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I don’t need you to keep repeating that you don’t understand the difference between donations and investments.
LSU Athletics doesn’t make a profit. How would an investor get a return in his dollars? Are there expectations of future profits?
To do so you would need to cut spending and/or increase revenues. You would also have to make better management decisions.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:37 am to RB10
quote:Look at you. What a clever and insightful response. Full of rational analysis of the facts.quote:Sorry samsonite.
It's Salviati, not Salvatore.
Your mother and father must be so proud at how clever their child is.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:40 am to Salviati
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First, let's deal with your change of subject. You do understand that the fund won't grow organically if the return is being used to [help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses] and pay investors. You do understand that, correct?
If this is the route they’re going they will want the donors to become investors. That’s the entire point.
The other option is for TAF to give up its Non-Profit status and be the majority stake holder, supporting the collective and reinvesting what is left over.
For this discussion, we’re talking about the former and the entire dumbass OP you created was about boosters buying stake in LSU.
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Second, you say that the fund "isn’t meant to pay players. It’s meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses." What exactly do you think the expenses of the NIL collective donors is?
Jesus Christ
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:40 am to Salviati
I like this idea, but what if we sold more branding at the stadium and surrounding area? There is already branding on the 25 yardline and sponsors. Im sure if we sold more advertising slots, maybe even on merchandise. Like a Coca-Cola LSU exclusive collectibles. Or something along those lines to make a dent.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:41 am to Salviati
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Your mother and father must be so proud at how clever their child is.
They’re just happy that I’m smarter than Samsung of TD. It’s a low bar, a very low one, but we have to start somewhere.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:43 am to doubleb
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LSU Athletics doesn’t make a profit. How would an investor get a return in his dollars? Are there expectations of future profits?
To do so you would need to cut spending and/or increase revenues. You would also have to make better management decisions.
Hence the reason I’ve said, from the beginning, that selling stake in the LSU AD is a terrible idea. I’ve said doing it with boosters and donors would be better than an outside PE firm, but that’s like saying cutting off your big toe is better than the whole foot. Neither is a win.
The OP, spectrum, is the one pitching this as a good idea because he believes they won’t care that their investment isn’t turning a profit.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 11:48 am
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:48 am to RB10
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Hence the reason I’ve said, from the beginning, that selling stake in the LSU AD is a terrible idea.
Maybe it's the cynic in me, but I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop on this deal. It sounds like one of those "too good to be true" situations. $100 million appears out of nowhere, it gets "invested in businesses", then magically a profit appears and the only one who gets something substantial out of it is LSU athletics? AND LSU maintains full control of every part of it?
Also doesn't help that the biggest champion in the media is the guy who touted such things as Gamecoin or whatever it was called.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:53 am to RB10
quote:You can't do it can you. You can't answer a simple question.quote:If this is the route they’re going they will want the donors to become investors. That’s the entire point.
First, let's deal with your change of subject. You do understand that the fund won't grow organically if the return is being used to [help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses] and pay investors. You do understand that, correct?
The other option is for TAF to give up its Non-Profit status and be the majority stake holder, supporting the collective and reinvesting what is left over.
For this discussion, we’re talking about the former and the entire dumbass OP you created was about boosters buying stake in LSU.
You have to keep changing the subject and talking in circles.
quote:Nope. You cannot do it.quote:Jesus Christ
Second, you say that the fund "isn’t meant to pay players. It’s meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses." What exactly do you think the expenses of the NIL collective donors is?
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:54 am to Salviati
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Third, if the investment fund is "meant to help the NIL collective donors cover their expenses" then what you're really saying is that the investor's money will be used to pay the donors. Does that make sense to you?
Of course not, because that’s not what I’m saying.
It will only cover the investments of those who have purchased stake in the LLC. The donors would have to become investors.
Man, you really struggle to keep up.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 11:55 am to Salviati
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You can't do it can you. You can't answer a simple question.
You have to keep changing the subject and talking in circles.
You’re asking stupid questions. I’m really trying to help you get there, you’re just too thick to manage it.
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:04 pm to RB10
quote:I've never even mentioned about bringing in an an outside PE firm. I've explained that repeatedly to you.
Hence the reason I’ve said, from the beginning, that selling stake in the LSU AD is a terrible idea. I’ve said doing it with boosters and donors would be better than an outside PE firm, but that’s like saying cutting off your big toe is better than the whole foot. Neither is a win.
The OP, spectrum, is the one pitching this as a good idea because he believes they won’t care that their investment isn’t turning a profit.
You talk about "selling stake in the LSU AD" and then you say, "I’ve said doing it with boosters and donors would be better." But you repeatedly say that I don't know the difference between donors and investors when I say it. GFY.
quote:That's not what I said. That is only what you keep saying. You're the one who constantly bitches that all ventures are evil and will ultimately destroy LSU athletics. All I said is that the venture will have no operational control, including AD staffs, coaching staffs, and student-athletes.
The OP, spectrum, is the one pitching this as a good idea because he believes they won’t care that their investment isn’t turning a profit.
There is ZERO reason to expect that a Boosters venture would do something different than what LSU is doing to maximize profits without killing the goose that lays the golden egg.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 8/5/26 at 12:07 pm to Salviati
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I've never even mentioned about bringing in an an outside PE firm. I've explained that repeatedly to you.
Never said you did
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You talk about "selling stake in the LSU AD" and then you say, "I’ve said doing it with boosters and donors would be better." But you repeatedly say that I don't know the difference between donors and investors when I say it. GFY.
I said more than that, and you don’t know the difference. You’ve made that clear.
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That's not what I said. That is only what you keep saying. You're the one who constantly bitches that all ventures are evil and will ultimately destroy LSU athletics. All I said is that the venture will have no operational control, including AD staffs, coaching staffs, and student-athletes.
I haven’t said anything about all ventures being evil. I’ve said LSU partnering with PE would be a disaster because LSU won’t be able to pay them back, which would result in cuts to get the profits up.
You really haven’t been able to wrap your little nugget around anything I’ve said.
This post was edited on 8/5/26 at 12:09 pm
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