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re: Can LSU have 6 First Rounders next year?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:52 pm to willisj76
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:52 pm to willisj76
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Always liked this site's mock drafts. This is interesting b/c they do not have Beckwith in the first round (not saying he should or should not..)**didn't realize White not on the list either...
Interesting. That would be a major publicity haul for LSU and likely would mean the team had a successful season. Fueled By Sports has Fournette, Dupre, Godchaux and Neal in the 1st round.
I prefer the Fox list. 
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:55 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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He is also taller...I like Landry...I'm just saying the measurables for Dupree are much more favorable to the NFL...
Unless we see something spectacular from him next season and he really shows out at the combine, he's no where near a first round lock.
Rueben Randall compares favorably both in size and college production, with Dupre having a slight statistical advantage to this point. Randall was a second rounder.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:29 pm to chilge1
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He pulled a hamstring and ran it anyway... then followed that up with a 4.5 at his pro day. Most of your post was solid, but come on, man.
nah, he came back and ran in the high 4.5's/low 4.6's at his pro day. The scout i like to follow had him at 4.61
Time's almost always improve from combine to pro day, i dont put much stock in them. Much rather the combine times where there are no variables.
Reason why he wasnt drafted in the 1st. He isnt an explosive athlete. His vertical and broad jump prove that. His 40 time reflects that too. And his 9.0 Yard per catch in the NFL backs that up.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:37 pm to Lester Earl
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Much rather the combine times where there are no variables.
I'd call pulling a hamstring a variable, but to each their own.
He's definitely not a burner, but he's a reliable possession receiver who catches anything in a 2 yards radius. 
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:40 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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If you think hill and fournette are valued equally when they became draft eligible....and that Dupree and Landry are close in measurable and speed...then cheers to you.
Jane you ignorant slut. My central thesis was that time and time again this board lists off a large group of guys as probable first rounders, and every spring they are disappointed by guys going later than they hoped. I posted those guys as examples, and it somehow became confused with me trying to directly compare them to current players. When prompted I attempted to make a few small comparisons, only to be further misunderstood by someone who doesn't like being disagreed with.
You poor fool. Learn to see the forest for the trees.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:44 pm to chilge1
If he had pulled his hamstring, he wouldnt have ran at all.
he had a strain, i believe is what he called it, and there was prob some tightness there, but it wasn't a pull. Its believable because his explosive jumps improved by a few inches at his pro day, but even so, they were very very poor a 5'11" 205 WR
he had a strain, i believe is what he called it, and there was prob some tightness there, but it wasn't a pull. Its believable because his explosive jumps improved by a few inches at his pro day, but even so, they were very very poor a 5'11" 205 WR
Posted on 1/21/16 at 2:58 pm to Bmath
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My central thesis was that time and time again this board lists off a large group of guys as probable first rounders, and every spring they are disappointed by guys going later than they hoped. I posted those guys as examples
Very few people expected either Hill or Landry to be a 1st Round pick. Hill had some obvious character concerns, and as discussed in this thread, Landry ran a 4.77 second 40 yard dash at the combine. The most optimistic predictions had them going early, but literally no one had them going in the first 32 picks.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:06 pm to Wayne Campbell
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He is also taller...I like Landry...I'm just saying the measurables for Dupree are much more favorable to the NFL...
Unless we see something spectacular from him next season and he really shows out at the combine, he's no where near a first round lock.
From the viewpoint of strictly production(limited by average to severely below average QB play for his entire career) I see your point. However, the fact is that virtually all of those who get paid to project this kind of stuff not only have Dupre in the 1st round for '17 but most have him in the upper half, as high as 2nd overall. Scouts are looking at his production, to be sure, however they're looking just as severely at his measureables and tools in projecting how he would fare in concert with a pro-caliber passer. The talent is there for all to see.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:14 pm to Bmath
so who are the 1st Rounders next year you think?
you realize by sheer volume alone, there is a greater chance of having a record number of 1st rounders than of any previous year?
you realize by sheer volume alone, there is a greater chance of having a record number of 1st rounders than of any previous year?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:26 pm to RANDY44
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Scouts are looking at his production, to be sure, however they're looking just as severely at his measureables and tools in projecting how he would fare in concert with a pro-caliber passer. The talent is there for all to see.
And the same was true of Rueben Randall, if you had quoted the rest of my statement. I'm not saying Dupre won't be a first rounder. I'm just saying that with a full season to play plus the combine, there's a lot of wiggle room in where he gets drafted.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 3:56 pm to chilge1
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Landry ran a 4.77 second 40 yard dash at the combine.
With a lower leg injury.
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but literally no one had them going in the first 32 picks.
You should check out the links I posted.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:26 pm to Wayne Campbell
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And the same was true of Rueben Randall, if you had quoted the rest of my statement. I'm not saying Dupre won't be a first rounder. I'm just saying that with a full season to play plus the combine, there's a lot of wiggle room in where he gets drafted.
You inferred by your comments that Dupre would have to be spectacular to be a first-round pick and my point was that view is not shared by a great many people in the forecasting world. His talent is likely going to bring him to the first round, regardless of whether his stats are markedly better in '16.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 4:29 pm to Bmath
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You should check out the links I posted.
The article on Landry was published before the NFL Combine.
The article on Hill said that he would be a first or second round pick and could be the first running back taken (he was the 2nd RB, one selection behind Bishop Sankey in the 2nd round)
And Kevin Minter, who you didn't mention until recently, was taken all of 13 selections after he was projected.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:03 pm to Wayne Campbell
Lol....hell will freeze over before you admit LSU has some studs this year. Dupree has better measurable than RR....just a fact
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:03 pm to Wayne Campbell
Lol....hell will freeze over before you admit LSU has some studs this year. Dupree has better measurable than RR....just a fact
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:08 pm to Bmath
Since I was able to plan and retire at 49...I'm pretty sure I am familiar with the "big picture". You dumbass, those 8 aren't MY list, they are the guys that various publications have projected as first rounders. I'm just reporting how they are viewed as of now to those in the business. It fkn pisses you off these publications are high on our players doesn't it...what a fkn joke...getting all worked up to shite on our players that these guys think are first round worthy.
frick off idiot.
frick off idiot.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:12 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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retire at 49
Brag much?
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:18 pm to Tigahbader
I get sick of dumbass kids that haven't accomplished shite in life talking shite about intelligence and the "big picture" to people, not just me, that have accomplished multitudes more than they likely ever will. I'm actually not materialistic at all and am very humble...hell I still have my 2008 truck...but I worked my arse off and planned well, and fk a young punk kid who hasn't done shite but run his mouth...the elllsssuuu types are all over...
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:22 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I'm just reporting how they are viewed as of now to those in the business.
And I listed articles for several players showing them as potential first round picks. None of them went in the first round. It happens. You can't put much weight in a mock draft or projections. They are fun, but every year guys slip.
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t fkn pisses you off these publications are high on our players doesn't it.
Link? I actually like the press, but I was trying to caution folks on the rant to a pattern based around expectations.
quote:. Hmm, I think that would be you. Exhibit A:
getting all worked up to shite
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frick off idiot.
You seem self important, so I'll go ahead and apologize so that you don't go to bed so cranky.
Posted on 1/21/16 at 8:28 pm to Tigerinthehollow
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I get sick of dumbass kids that haven't accomplished shite in life talking shite about intelligence and the "big picture" to people, not just me, that have accomplished multitudes more than they likely ever will.
Holy shite.
A) I'm 30
B) There is a plaque at LSU with my name on it with an accomplishment I received in grad school. Only mentioning this since you brought it up.
C) I drive a 2007 Civic
If you would calm down and not be blinded with rage because I didn't agree with you, then maybe we could have a civil discussion. Go back and read my posts. I didn't start attacking you until you got personal.
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