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re: Burrow Jumps Up the list of Odds for Heisman
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:05 pm to SammyTiger
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:05 pm to SammyTiger
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I think You have to be an absolute a-hole to question his decision to transfer without a guarantee to start.
I guess that makes me an absolute a-hole then.
But let me say this. According to Buckeye Joe, it was a heated head to head race to win the starting QB position. If this were the case, I think Burrow should have manned up and stuck to his commitment to his team and teammates.
Because he left, I personally don't believe it was a close race for the Starting QB job.
If he felt he was going to ride the bench, and he thought he could get playing time elsewhere, by all means, quit the team and transfer to a program where you can get some playing time.
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:06 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:tard.
Door A gives you a 50/50 chance to have someone hand you a million dollars - NFL deal.
Door B gives you a 90/10 chance at the million - NFL deal.
There are lots of stories of guys getting little playing time as a starter in college and then wowing the scouts and having a nice career.
Ever heard of Brad Johnson?
You must think a lot of Ensminger, btw, if Burrow+Slinger==90% chance.
quote:Link?
(BTW, door A just lied to you about a critical commitment... that they would choose on a date certain)
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:08 pm to earl keese
How often do you bet your life savings at the roulette table?
That’s basically what you’re asking Joe to do. Go 100% or bust.
If you have a chance to transfer with 2 years to learn a playbook and a guarantee to start you take that.
It’s absolutely understandable. Those teammates and the university aren’t paying your bills.
That’s basically what you’re asking Joe to do. Go 100% or bust.
If you have a chance to transfer with 2 years to learn a playbook and a guarantee to start you take that.
It’s absolutely understandable. Those teammates and the university aren’t paying your bills.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:09 pm to clamdip
quote:Wrong. I pointed out that Ohio State LIED to Joe about choosing a QB directly after the Spring game.
you're the one who pointed out that Joe Burrow was a quitter.
Don't know how YOU do business, but when someone lies to me about a critical element of a deal - I'm Gone! Outta there!
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:11 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
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Wrong. I pointed out that Ohio State LIED to Joe about choosing a QB directly after the Spring game.
How do you know this?
Even if it's true, why would a coach let a player hold him to a deadline? If I were Meyer and a player demanded that I make a decision on his status I would've told him to kick rocks.
I hope you're not reporting anything closely resembling the truth because it does not make Burrow look good.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:12 pm to SammyTiger
quote:Sammy, I'm not sure if anyone is bashing Burrow for the decision. I'd hope not.
How often do you bet your life savings at the roulette table?
That’s basically what you’re asking Joe to do. Go 100% or bust.
If you have a chance to transfer with 2 years to learn a playbook and a guarantee to start you take that.
It’s absolutely understandable. Those teammates and the university aren’t paying your bills.
They are bashing Buckeye Second Cousin for claiming that Burrow was truly neck and neck with Haskins, had all indications from Urbs that it's a total tossup, yet still bolted for LSU.
Sensible people (and I've linked several buckeye beat writers as well) know that Haskins was going to get the job.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:13 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Pretty common knowledge around C'Bus. Maybe I'll look for a link if I get bored later.
How do you know this?
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:14 pm to clamdip
quote:
Sammy, I'm not sure if anyone is bashing Burrow for the decision. I'd hope not.
You are saying that a real competition would have stayed.
Idk how you don’t think that’s bashing.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:14 pm to Goldrush25
quote:
How do you know this?
I asked him the same thing about a week ago and he danced around it like always.
Correction: Buckeye said that Meyer couldn’t decide, that’s why Burrow left.
Strange now that instead of not deciding, Meyer now lied to Burrow. This is like a soap opera.
“Will Meyer decide or will he continue to lie? Tune in tomorrow!”
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:15 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
You have a right to your opinions
Thank you Sammy.
quote:
And we all have a right to point out that it’s fricking stupid.
Alrighty then. That's also an opinion. But you certainly have a right to that opinion. 
quote:
Sorry there is believing in yourself and making a smart move. How many things do you believe in enough to risk your entire future on?
Well, if we believe Buckeye Joe that it was a dead even race between Burrow and Haskins for the Starting job, you should believe in yourself enough to compete for the QB position.
Obviously Burrow knew he wasn't going to win that job.
Once again, my opinion.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:17 pm to earl keese
I think You can argue with Buckeye Jeaux without shitting on Burrow
shite I have Argued with him on Haskins vs Burrow because he won’t even admit a different in arm talent.
shite I have Argued with him on Haskins vs Burrow because he won’t even admit a different in arm talent.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:17 pm to clamdip
quote:ALL Buckeye beat writers handed Haskins the starting job after the Michigan game. But Meyer (and most of the fan base) did not.
Sensible people (and I've linked several buckeye beat writers as well) know that Haskins was going to get the job.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:19 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
So in your opinion Joe is NOT a competitor? (psst, dude that's dumb)
I believe Joe is a competitor. Just like every other athlete in the world. What I'm saying is, in my opinion, Burrow knew that he wasn't going to beat out Haskins for the starting job at Ohio State, so he quit and transferred out of the program.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:20 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:
Well, that's just the thing. I don't think he was.
We agree on that. I don't think he was either.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:27 pm to earl keese
quote:
I believe Joe is a competitor. Just like every other athlete in the world. What I'm saying is, in my opinion, Burrow knew that he wasn't going to beat out Haskins for the starting job at Ohio State, so he quit and transferred out of the program.
Yep.
And that's completely reasonable.
I don't buy this idea that it was a true toss-up and he left. If you're not quite as good as a first round QB there's absolutely no shame in that.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:30 pm to Goldrush25
quote:That's exactly what it was - whether you believe it or not.
I don't buy this idea that it was a true toss up and he left.
quote:
Asked what will happen if OSU has not made a decision at the end of spring, Meyer said he is focused only on the next practice.
For the time being, the Buckeyes still don’t have their answer to spring football’s most important question.
“You wish one would take it,” Meyer said. “And that has not happened.”
LINK
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:32 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
How often do you bet your life savings at the roulette table?
Well I'm not a big gambler Sammy. But I understand what you're getting at.
quote:
That’s basically what you’re asking Joe to do. Go 100% or bust.
I'm not asking Joe to do a damn thing. All I'm saying is, if that were me, and I'm in a neck to neck race for something, I'm not gonna give up and throw in the towel until the final decision is made. But that's just me. I'm not saying you or Buckeye joe or Burrow needs to have the same mindset.
quote:
If you have a chance to transfer with 2 years to learn a playbook and a guarantee to start you take that.
Sure. If you know for a fact that you're not going to win the job and you're going to ride the bench, transfer out.
quote:
It’s absolutely understandable. Those teammates and the university aren’t paying your bills.
Again, I agree that it is understandable if you know that you're not going to beat out your competition.
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:35 pm to earl keese
It’s understandable if you have 50% chance of losing a position battle.
You absolutely don’t take a 50/50 chance when it could effectively end your career. And if you say “a competitor would” you’re just full of shite.
You absolutely don’t take a 50/50 chance when it could effectively end your career. And if you say “a competitor would” you’re just full of shite.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:37 pm to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:
Burrow will be a Top-5 QB pick if he hits these marks:
1) Burrow will throw 68%+ completions, 70%+ not unlikely
2) Throw for 3500+ yards. 4000+ is not unlikely.
3) He'll have a 5 to 1 or better TD to INT ratio.
Now wait a minute. You're moving the goalpost again. First you were saying Joe is going to hit those numbers this year despite the WRs lack of jug work. You followed that up by saying he will be a top-5 QB pick. Now your saying he will be a top-5 QB pick IF he can hit those numbers. You getting nervous about your prediction?
ETA: And we already know that if Joe doesn't hit those numbers you've already laid the groundwork to blame Moffitt.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 7/24/19 at 3:38 pm to clamdip
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Sammy, I'm not sure if anyone is bashing Burrow for the decision. I'd hope not.
I'm not bashing Burrow, although it seems like a few people think I am. All I'm saying is it's not a good look for Burrow that he quit the Ohio State program and transferred out if he really was in a neck to neck race with Haskins for the Ohio State starting QB position.
And that's only my opinion. Obviously others have a different opinion. And that's cool.
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