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re: Burrow Jumps Up the list of Odds for Heisman

Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:19 pm to
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Of course he did. You don't transfer if it's a coin flip. There is no shame in being slightly behind Haskins.



More importantly, it's a coin flip of being a first round draft pick as it turns out. It was a $14m coin flip, if Buckeye's assessment of Burrow's talent is accurate.

So either Burrow got some horrible financial advice, he has a huge ego, or he knew he wasn't winning the job.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:34 pm to
That’s BS

Of COURSE you transfer if it’s still a counflip.

Would you gamble you’re NFL career on a coin flip?

If he loses he has no idea if he’ll ever get a chance to play (no idea a leaves as RS soph)

Being able to transfer as a grad transfer with 2 years of eligibility is the smart move. Hard to make for an Ohio kid at tOSU but absolutely the right move without a guarantee.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:37 pm to
I don't know the grad transfer rules well, but could he have started his advanced degree at OSU last season then transferred this offseason in the same way if he wanted to?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:39 pm to
I don't know, Sammy. I think if it's a true coin flip and you're a competitor, then you stay to win the job. I think everyone can agree on how much of a competitor Burrow seems to be.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:42 pm to
Honestly how often does this come up?

Not a lot of grad transfers that have multiple years of eligibility left.

Still blowing a year and starting over his 5th year and hoping 1 year starting gets it done is a lot to ask someone.

Likely Haskins would have won out, but I think The fact that Burrow isn’t slower than Eli Manning made up a lot of ground in the arm talent field.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 1:44 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:47 pm to
Throw that true competitor BS out the window

At some point you have to be smart.

All the “what about the team” and “what about competition” goes out the window when you look at the risk/reward.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104235 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:51 pm to
In that scenario, I'm assuming that you believe that Burrow was promised the starting job at LSU before he transferred then.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:56 pm to
Honestly, either he was promised it or he saw that it was completely wide open.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104235 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 1:59 pm to
It would be interesting to find out just how much he and his family knew about where the other QBs were in their development when deciding on comimg to LSU or not.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:01 pm to
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Huh?


I really feel sorry for you joe. You're getting your arse handed to you in the thread. But this isn't any different than any other thread you've been involved in while you've been on the rant.

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who was in high school for which previous seasons? You've lost me on this one.


It might be time to close out your account joe.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14725 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:03 pm to
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Honestly, either he was promised it or he saw that it was completely wide open.


All he had to do was watch the spring game. JMac was clearly the best QB that day and he was less than impressive.

This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:05 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:14 pm to
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That’s BS

Of COURSE you transfer if it’s still a counflip.

Would you gamble you’re NFL career on a coin flip?


He would've been the favorite to start this season at Ohio St.

He wanted a sure thing though.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:16 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:15 pm to
Yeah if he may have stayed if he could tell the future and predict a RS Soph would leave after 1 year
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:18 pm to
Well, if the upside is being a first-round draft pick, yeah it might be worth it.

There's no chance at all of him being a first-round draft pick starting for LSU.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:22 pm to
1. Again no guarantee Haskins leaves after 1 year. So he’s not just commuting to trying to be a first rounder in 1 year but risking never playing at all.

2. Don’t be a negative Nancy. It’s
Not impossible that we actually installed an offense that would showcase him. He’ll he threw for 2800+ in a terrible passing game .
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104235 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:22 pm to
I wouldn't say that there's no chance. But, certainly a better chance at Ohio State given the recent history of the offenses at the 2 schools.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33893 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:31 pm to
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1. Again no guarantee Haskins leaves after 1 year. So he’s not just commuting to trying to be a first rounder in 1 year but risking never playing at all.



Never playing at all? He played the year before. He was going to get playing time. Tate Martell got playing time.

He wanted to be guaranteed the job. He was considering Cincinnati as well.

quote:

Don’t be a negative Nancy. It’s
Not impossible that we actually installed an offense that would showcase him. He’ll he threw for 2800+ in a terrible passing game .



Practically impossible. It's more likely that Haskins leaves after one good year than LSU turns a 6th-7th round QB into a first round QB.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:32 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78240 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Never playing at all? He played the year before. He was going to get playing time. Tate Martell got playing time.


So you’re saying he should stay to be a backup?

That’s you’re argument?

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Never playing at all? He played the year before. He was going to get playing time. Tate Martell got playing time.


How do you think any of those 1st round QBs look on our team last year? Getting blasted left and right while going through his progressions on slow developing plays?

Lawrence, Tua and Haskins know where they’re gonna throw the ball before they snap it probably 80% of the time.

I think We’re going to be like that on offense this year. If we are it will be a different game.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:38 pm
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:35 pm to
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Except that nobody beat anybody out. Meyer couldn't decide by the date he committed to (within a week after the Spring game) so Burrow said no to a coin-flip situation, and hit the road.

Ballsy move.



Ballsy? I suppose a person could call it that. I personally would call a move like that cowardly. It's a move that a spoiled 10 year old would make. He wasn't picked first so he took his ball and went home so to speak. He quit on his team and his teammates.

In my opinion.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:36 pm to
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The transfer of Joe Burrow clears the way for Dwayne Haskins as Ohio State's starting quarterback in the fall, a role he was almost certainly going to seize anyway. That's why Burrow is leaving to play somewhere else.

Cleveland.com? The media (even in Cleveland, wanted Haskins - the majority of the fans wanted Borrow - Meyer was undecided - Burrow split)

Ohio State fans voted for Burrow over Haskins 59% to 39% - it was about the same margin on all the sites that had polls. The Haskins vs Burrow competition was a big deal that Spring.
Link to poll:
LINK
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 2:38 pm
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