re: Burrow is the best complete QB in the SEC. True or False?

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I still say that.

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Okay. That's cool.

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Burrow was one of the 5 best QBs last season. IMO, he was.

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That's your opinion, and you've certainly got the right to voice your opinion. Nobody's holding that against you.

But in my opinion, he wasn't one of the 5 best QBs last season. And I have just as much of a right to voice my opinion as you do to voice yours. The problem I have with you is every time I've voiced my opinion on Burrow, instead of trying to state your claim in a mild rational manner, you've elected to call me an idiot or a hater or whatever the phrase of the day is where you come from.

I don't take kindly to that, and I'm sure that nobody else on the rant is fond of that kind of treatment either, yourself included.

Brady didn’t have mediocre stats you idiot. He was top 5 in every category in the conference.

There are 5 major conferences. And at least 5 more mid-majors. 5th in one conference is a mediocre stat.

Brady was 31st in passing efficiency in his senior year. Also a mediocre stat.

You're silly, Madking

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you're one of the most abusive posters on this site

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Oh my goodness.

He made a fair statement.

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instead of trying to state your claim in a mild rational manner, you've elected to call me an idiot or a hater or whatever the phrase of the day is where you come from.

I don't take kindly to that, and I'm sure that nobody else on the rant is fond of that kind of treatment either, yourself included.

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Do you disagree with it?


He's hardly the worst poster on here. He was pointing out that no one likes to have their opinions questioned. An opinion is not a fact and you're acting like it is. Just stop and move on.

Interesting that you completely skipped over my question. I was actually asking.

Like I said, your mind is made up. It's pointless to try to have a rational discussion with you regarding Burrow.


Not even worth responding to.

Lmfao another one of your lots favorite tactics, playing the victim after hours of abusing others. Pathetic.

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You're simple minded for over estimating the effects of the different variables and not being realistic. 

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So when Joe has a monster year because his offensive line is returning 4 starters and will improve, wrs are all returning basically and will improve, the run game absolutely improving, and the play calling improving w Joe brady, let me guess...

You'll say Joe burrow just improved a lot during the off season and it had next to nothing to do with all his limitations being removed or improved.

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1. Was Tom Brady one of the best 5 QBs in the '99 draft? Of course he was.
2. Was he drafted as one of the first 5 QBs taken. No. The HCs and GMs were too inefficient to see past his mediocre stats.

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This is a classic 20/20 hindsight analysis.

In typical Ree fashion you latch on to a point like a dog on a bone and will not let go. However, no matter how many times you say, it won’t be true, NFL people do draft SOLELY on stats. I could probably dig up multiple players with mediocre stats that were drafted high and definitely point to several that had amazing stats and were drafted late or not at all. NFL people do watch film, they also work players out. Sometimes they miss, sometimes a player develops late and becomes great after he gets to the pros

I didn’t even need to look up Brady’s stats to know that the dude was lying about them. I’ve never seen someone on here consistently run interference for a player/coach to the point where they blatantly lie about stuff that can easily be disproven. It’s so weird.

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I didn’t even need to look up Brady’s stats to know that the dude was lying about them.

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It’s not so much that he’s lying but he takes it out of context. Compared today Brady’s numbers look very pedestrian but in 1999 they weren’t bad especially if they were running a Milesian type offense. But, that was 20 years ago, as Madking pointed out rules have changed, new schemes have been developed etc. Even worse was he brought up Montana’s stats In the 70s the wishbone was a dominant offense but the real kicker is the offense Montana ran in SF wasn’t really invented yet, ok sure Bill Walsh and Paul Brown had created what would become the WCO in Cincinnati but the NFL rule changes that really opened up the passing game came in 1978, at that point the NFL was 60/40 run/pass.

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Tua buckles under pressure and is injury prone. In tough games he’s proven he can’t win.

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I don't think its the pressure of big games that gets to him. Its when he gets put on the ground. If we could hit him more(not even necessarily sacks), we could have had a much better game against him.