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re: Burrow has a slightly stronger arm than Haskins in direct competitions

Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:07 pm to
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have to assume he means a back shoulder pass but doesn’t actually know what it’s called
Backshoulder is similar, but somewhat different.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Backshoulder is similar, but somewhat different.


Well yeah a back shoulder pass is different than a planned underthrow because a back shoulder pass actually exists.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:14 pm to
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But thats not planned. Its a wr adjusting to an underthrown ball. No qb tries to underthrow the 9 route.
You are like the Prince of Absolutisms - it NEVER happens. What a presumptuous arse.

And yes, the vast majority of underthrows are mistakes. But some are planned to frick the overplaying DB. And a QB and WR can run any damn variation they want, as long as they work more than they miss. And their position coaches aren't control freaks.

Raymond Berry came up with a winning variation on an underthrow. On short hooks, Unitas tended to throw the ball in the dirt if Berry was covered. Berry said how about throwing into the dirt a couple yards closer to me, and I'll work on a catch that works. They practiced that for weeks until they finally perfected it. Berry/Unitas picked up 100 or so first downs over the years on that variation. This is in Berry's book, "Raymond Berry's complete guide to coaching pass receivers". Still one of the best books on coaching WRs
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:19 pm to
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Don't know what business you are in, but when someone renegs on a significant promise, I'm pretty much out of there - no hard feelings - just not gonna play Lucy and the football.




You're saying that Burrow gave up the chance to be the first QB taken in the NFL draft this year (because according to you, all of Haskins' accolades would've been his) because of principle? Instead, he ended up in an offense that ranked in the 100s for the better part of the season. That's poor decision making, brother.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:22 pm
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:30 pm to
Hopefull as well. The offensive line will be the difference between 9 regular season wins and 11 regular season wins.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:31 pm to
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You're saying that Burrow gave up the chance to be the first QB taken in the NFL draft this year (because according to you, all of Haskins' accolades would've been his) because of principle? Instead, he ended up in an offense that ranked in the 100s for the better part of the season. That's poor decision making, brother.
I'm saying Burrow left for the reason I stated in my post above. And yes, if someone reneges on a deal, ot's on them. If you let it happen again, its on you. I doubt Burrow has ever regretted his decision for as much as a millisecond.

Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:41 pm to
STFU Derek
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:49 pm to
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You are like the Prince of Absolutisms - it NEVER happens. What a presumptuous arse.


Its doesnt idiot. No qb ever says...." hey im going to underthrow this go route". They call a deep comeback.
Youre an idiot that clearly doesnt know shite about football.

"A good bit if underthrown deep routes are planned."
Youve exposed yourself as the football ignorant poster everyone knows you are.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48011 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:50 pm to
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And yes, the vast majority of underthrows are mistakes. But some are planned to frick the overplaying DB. 


Those arent called planned underthrows on a deep routes idiot.

Youve never played football thats becoming very clear.


Any qb that tells their coach they are planning to underthrow the 9 route would be laughed at.
This isnt you and your friends drawing up plays in the backyard.
Jesus
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 7:51 pm to
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I'm saying Burrow left for the reason I stated in my post above. And yes, if someone reneges on a deal, ot's on them. If you let it happen again, its on you. I doubt Burrow has ever regretted his decision for as much as a millisecond.




Well, I don't think he regrets it either because I think he knew he wasn't getting the job.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 8:21 pm to
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Well, I don't think he regrets it either because I think he knew he wasn't getting the job.
Your lack of confidence in LSU's QB doesn't surprise me.
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:00 pm to
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Its doesnt idiot. No qb ever says...." hey im going to underthrow this go route". They call a deep comeback



This sounds nitpicky.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 9:27 pm to
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This sounds nitpicky.
And also dead wrong. It is a useful tactic any time a QB & WR can make it work. I already pointed out that Unitas/Berry used it on hooks. An underthrow can also be used to draw a pass interference flag.

The dude is so damn cocksure - a sure sign of stupidity.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 9:29 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:07 pm to
Lol underyhrowing your WR who is behind the man covering him is not a tactic it’s a mistake.
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:18 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:15 pm to
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Its doesnt idiot. No qb ever says...." hey im going to underthrow this go route". They call a deep comeback. Youre an idiot that clearly doesnt know shite about football


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A back shoulder pass in football is a type of throw where the quarterback aims the ball to intersect with the path of a receiver just behind him as he runs down the field. It is an offensive tactic that takes advantage of a fundamental defensive rule by breaking a fundamental offensive rule.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:16 pm to
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Lol underyhrowing your WR who is behind the man covering is not a tactic it’s a mistake.
Also a tactic in the case you state. Can be used to draw a flag. You didn't know that either, did you. LOL
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:19 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:19 pm to
Why would you want a flag instead you know a TD.

Hitting the WR behind the CB in stride > PI
This post was edited on 3/22/19 at 10:20 pm
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:28 pm to
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Why would you want a flag instead you know a TD.
Way easier to make a long underthrow than a long perfect strike. Flacco and Torey Smith with the Ravens had the PI-underthrow down to a science.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78159 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:30 pm to
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Way easier to make a long underthrow than a long perfect strike.


Lol yeah it’s way easier to not be good.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 3/22/19 at 10:55 pm to

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Lol yeah it’s way easier to not be good.
Um... Pretty sure Flacco and Smith both have Super Bowl Rings (Smith has 2) and Flacco is a SB MVP.

Don't know good you were that they don't measure up to your "standards".
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