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re: Brief Wisco Breakdown
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:40 am to Johnkester59
Posted on 8/22/14 at 7:40 am to Johnkester59
That's not very unique, I feel like almost all traditionally black universities high step pretty often. I guess it's unique to a non-traditional black school though...
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Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:08 am to Johnkester59
Thanks for the breakdown! There used to be more of this kind of stuff on the board, and I really enjoyed reading it.
A question for Badger fans: how much better (presumably) is this Wisconsin team to the Iowa team LSU played in the bowl game last year? In addition, are last year's Iowa and this year's Wisky teams even similar? I don't get to watch a lot of Big 10 ball, so I am just trying to use something I did see as a starting point. I know Wisconsin is generally good, and LSU is generally good, but I know LSU has some big question marks and it sounds like much the same can be said of the Badgers.
A question for Badger fans: how much better (presumably) is this Wisconsin team to the Iowa team LSU played in the bowl game last year? In addition, are last year's Iowa and this year's Wisky teams even similar? I don't get to watch a lot of Big 10 ball, so I am just trying to use something I did see as a starting point. I know Wisconsin is generally good, and LSU is generally good, but I know LSU has some big question marks and it sounds like much the same can be said of the Badgers.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:10 am to idlewatcher
21-17 LSU!
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:32 am to 1badboy
Nice breakdown.
Problem for you is our corners WILL match your receivers 1 on 1 enabling LSU to put 8 in box.
That alone will make this a two posession game.
Problem for you is our corners WILL match your receivers 1 on 1 enabling LSU to put 8 in box.
That alone will make this a two posession game.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:42 am to Johnkester59
We are in a rebuilding year as we led the NCAA in players drafted in the NFL draft with 9. Most fans expect a close game. Good luck and thanks for the post.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:43 am to Purple Spoon
Do you think we haven't faced 8 in the box before?
You do understand that our passing game is predicated on this fact?
You do understand that our passing game is predicated on this fact?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:08 am to BuckyBadger
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Do you think we haven't faced 8 in the box before?
8 of the likes of Indy, Illinois Purdue etc... don't really count. Also you don't have the like of Jared A carving up single coverage anymore.
You guys use brute physical force to bully slow unathletic defences, with a touch of playaction to Jared. When you face some athletes, that falls apart. And you lost your one legit receiver (who was one of the best route runners in the game).
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You do understand that our passing game is predicated on this fact?
You have a piss poor QB and absolutely no receivers. that is what your passing game is predicated on.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:10 am to Johnkester59
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Seriously though we hear this every time we play a decent team. It may be more true against LSU than most but I think we will be just fine. I have a hard time believing that this young LSU line is more talented than the USC team we faced last year and we ran at will against them while opening huge holes. We have NFL O-linemen too.
Wait, slow down. When have you played and beat a decent team? Yes that 1 point victory against Arizona State in 2010 was triumphant
Also if you have to argue you will be fine because of the result of a double digit loss .... that tells us a lot.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:21 am to N.O. via West-Cal
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how much better (presumably) is this Wisconsin team to the Iowa team LSU played in the bowl game last year?
Its tough to say for sure until we see how the front 7 comes together but I would say significantly. Iowa's RB was Mark Weismen who ran for 938 yards at 4.5 ypc and 7 TDs. UW's backs both ran for over 1,400 yards and 12 td's as they set an NCAA record for most rushing yards by a duo in CFB history. The two guys we return averaged 7.8 (Gordon) and 8.2 (Clement) YPC. The WR's are a total question mark but Iowa's receivers were terrible so I think its a wash there. The O-lines are the most similar aspects of our teams these days though I would (obviously) give the nod to UW.
The defenses are really not comparable anymore as we run a blitz heavy 3-4 and they run a strictly base 4-3.
As has been mentioned, we beat that Iowa team @Iowa 28-9 so take that for FWIW. The mental toughness and physical nature of the teams are similar but the talent differential at the skill positions is pretty lopsided in the Badgers favor.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:25 am to igoringa
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Also if you have to argue you will be fine because of the result of a double digit loss .... that tells us a lot.
Not big on nuance are you? But you are right we have never played a team with NFL talent before and we will be shocked, SHOCKED I tell you at the raw speed of LSU.
This post was edited on 8/22/14 at 10:26 am
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:27 am to Johnkester59
Thanks, but after LSU kicks Wisconsin's sorry arse we'll never hear from you again, similar to how the Oregon and TCU fans disappeared after LSU demolished their teams.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:27 am to igoringa
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You have a piss poor QB and absolutely no receivers
As opposed to your proven QB and seasoned WRs? Pot meet kettle.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:28 am to MontanaTiger
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Thanks, but after LSU kicks Wisconsin's sorry arse we'll never hear from you again, similar to how the Oregon and TCU fans disappeared after LSU demolished their teams.
Why would I want to post on an LSU message board after our game is done? Of course I'm going to disappear, win lose or draw.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:28 am to Johnkester59
The difference is LSU has elite corners.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 am to Johnkester59
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Why would I want to post on an LSU message board after our game is done? Of course I'm going to disappear, win lose or draw.
Will you at least have the guts to come back and admit that you vastly underestimated LSU? You really have no idea how big is the talent gap between LSU and Wisconsin.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:48 am to MontanaTiger
Badger posters, what can we expect in atmosphere & physical facilities, i.e. tailgating capabilities, when we play ya'll in Lambedau next yr? Is Greenbay a big enough city to handle all your fans & 30K LSU fans, or should we try & stay in Milwaukee for instance? If not there, where is the next most practical city to stay for 3/4 days?And for what it's worth, LSU fans really wanted a home & home so we could experience Camp Randle in all its finest. It was our administrators who chose $$$ over its fans' interests.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:49 am to MontanaTiger
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Will you at least have the guts to come back and admit that you vastly underestimated LSU? You really have no idea how big is the talent gap between LSU and Wisconsin.
Thats such a tempting offer coming from such a classy poster with so many constructive and relevant comments towards me. I will absolutely be here for the post game threads, but I think you are the one without a clue as to the talent levels of the two teams. Everyone and their mama knows how good LSU is. You are one of the top 2 programs in the country, I get it. I'm just not scared. All that talent struggled with a terrible Arkansas team and a mediocre Iowa team who are basically Wisconsin without the talent. Ole Miss took it to you. If this was the 2011 Tigers I would agree with you about the talent gap, but this is a team that is going to rely on freshmen at several key spots after coming off a good but by no means great season. I kind of expect LSU to win but it will be in a dogfight. You are not going to be able to line up and just run circles around us.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:52 am to Johnkester59
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The mental toughness and physical nature of the teams are similar but the talent differential at the skill positions is pretty lopsided in the Badgers favor.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:53 am to Keltic Tiger
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Haha, no it is not. I would guess that every hotel in Green Bay is already sold out. If you are going to be there for a few days I would strongly suggest Milwaukee. Its about an hour and half drive but is a much better city. The other option is Appleton but there is no reason to go to Appleton unless you have family there. Everything you can do in Appleton you can do in Milwaukee plus about ten thousand other things.
As for tailgating… Its Lambeau. We pretty much invented it.
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Is Greenbay a big enough city to handle all your fans & 30K LSU fans, or should we try & stay in Milwaukee for instance? If not there, where is the next most practical city to stay for 3/4 days?
Haha, no it is not. I would guess that every hotel in Green Bay is already sold out. If you are going to be there for a few days I would strongly suggest Milwaukee. Its about an hour and half drive but is a much better city. The other option is Appleton but there is no reason to go to Appleton unless you have family there. Everything you can do in Appleton you can do in Milwaukee plus about ten thousand other things.
As for tailgating… Its Lambeau. We pretty much invented it.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:55 am to Johnkester59
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You have a piss poor QB and absolutely no receivers
As opposed to your proven QB and seasoned WRs? Pot meet kettle.
I wasn't arguing that our QB and WRs were some strategic advantage like the OP... but please continue I am enjoying the entertainment.
And help us out... walk us through the OOC game you guys have had in the last 4 years that should raise our concern?
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