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re: Brad Cresse was 1 for 13 with 8 Ks

Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:49 pm to
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34705 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:49 pm to
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I literally never once thought pulling Thompson was logical until that throw to third today


Might have been the dumbest play in CWS history.
Posted by MudIslandTiger
Germantown, TN
Member since Dec 2016
175 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 9:50 pm to
1/10. Then went 1/3 in the finals.

0/3, 0/3, 1/4. So 2/13 overall.

And he was the MVP of the team who hit .388 with 30/100+. And you’re seriously comparing him to a mediocre shortstop who is hitting 0.030 in Omaha with an extremely costly 4 errors. I’ll give you this - you white knight for Thompson better than anyone else.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:02 pm to
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Much better line than Thompson. Just stop.
Not really.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1590 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:04 pm to
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quote: Much better line than Thompson. Just stop.

Not really.


Even you don’t actually believe this
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:05 pm to
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Brad Cresse was 1 for 13 with 8 Ks by ell_13Before he got jammed and won the CWS in 2000. Do with that information what you will.


You talking about Johnny Bench Award winning all American Brad Cresse? Did you just insinuate there is some similarities bt his 1-13 vs JT’s 1-30???

How do you people get dressed in the morning?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:07 pm to
They both had one hit except Cresse had a higher K rate. How is that in any way better?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:08 pm to
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You talking about Johnny Bench Award winning all American Brad Cresse?
Yeah. Him. That guy was atrocious up until that last AB in the CWS. And that’s not really a debate. He went cold as ice.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1590 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:09 pm to
Youre ignoring the fact that while the two arguably started similarly, one continued to spiral into shite with no sign of ever stopping and the other did not. Mental gymnastics must be your thing
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9773 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:09 pm to
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Yeah. Him. That guy was atrocious up until that last AB in the CWS. And that’s not really a debate. He went cold as ice.

How many errors did he have?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:12 pm to
Tough to have Es at catcher. But in 4 games he had 3 PBs.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4893 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:12 pm to
Ok Jordan. Get some rest.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:14 pm to
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one continued to spiral into shite with no sign of ever stopping and the other did not. Mental gymnastics must be your thing
Uh. There were no other ABs for Cresse besides the last one. JT has a few more ahead of him. Cresse wasn’t showing signs of life and even that last hit was bad contact.
Posted by Chet Donnely
Member since Sep 2015
1590 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:15 pm to
So you’re admitting the two cannot be compared. Cool.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:39 pm to
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Yeah. Him. That guy was atrocious up until that last AB in the CWS. And that’s not really a debate. He went cold as ice.


You are twisting the frick out of the situation. First of all, Cresse only went two games without a hit compared to Thompson's 6 hitless games. Cresse in the 2000 CWS batted .153; OBP was still .388 b/c he walked 4 times and got hbp. Cresse had an RBI in 3 of the 4 games and a double in game 3. Quit selling bullshite.

Cresse
Texas - 0-3 run, rbi, bb, 2k
USC - 0-3 2bb, 3k
FSU - 1-4 Double, run, rbi k
Stanford - 1-3 rbi bb 2k HBP

Thompson is 1 for 30 with 1 rbi. He hasn't even scored a run. he has walked once and struck out 14 times. Cresse made no errors. JT has four errors.

Compare
BA (cresse by almost 5x)
Cresse .153
Thompson .033

OBP (cresse by 6x)
Cresse .388
Thompson .065

RBI
Cresse 1 every 4.7 at bats
Thompson 1 every 30 at bats

Runs
Cresse .5 runs scored per game
Thompson .14 runs scored per game

OPS
Cresse .619
Thompson .098
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86717 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:42 pm to
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Cresse only went two games without a hit compared to Thompson's 6 hitless games
They only played 4 games in 2000.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9773 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:44 pm to
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Tough to have Es at catcher.

So is that 0?

quote:

But in 4 games he had 3 PBs.

The box scores say 1. Are you really lying to continue this failing argument?
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5989 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 10:46 pm to
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They only played 4 games in 2000.



you literally said "Cresse wasn’t showing signs of life". In the second to last game, he hit a rbi double and scored a run. In the last game, before the series-winning hit, he got on base twice. Wasn't showing signs of life? you are just making shite up
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6404 posts
Posted on 6/25/23 at 11:25 pm to
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Before he got jammed and won the CWS in 2000.

Do with that information what you will.




Thompson has had a lot more chances than 13. Cresse's first hit was a double off the wall that helped LSU win a game to send them to the championship game. Also, he did not get jammed on his game winning hit, final hit. He smoked that ball. Go watch it again.

Or keep thinking you're right. I don't care.
Posted by TreMorgansearholes
Member since Apr 2023
194 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 2:53 pm to
I never said he wasn’t deserving, but baseballs about slumps. He played great til the playoffs. He’s slumping on 2 facets of the game when we trying to win the trophy. There’s no replacement so it’s just ride or die with JT who is my nephew and i’s favorite player. But at some point you have to admit he’s not helping this team right now. All season, the argument is valid for him doing well. But this week has shown he can collapse. Either batting is getting to his head, or the play in the field is affecting his bat. Let’s hope for a goahead hit for all the marbles!

I hope he has a great game tonight, I have faith in JJ helping him get back to form. At this point it’s either ride with him, or write him off and it’s the last game of the season, so let’s ride

I’m not in the business of writing a player off for a bad series, but fact of the matter is tonight we NEED him back to midseason form. I believe he can do it, he just needs to stop pressing and get back to midseason form. I trust Jay, and I always respect your takes, ell.
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
85627 posts
Posted on 6/26/23 at 3:07 pm to
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Tough to have Es at catcher.

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