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re: BR sports “LSU made that rise with the toughest schedule in college football

Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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Thanks for proving my point.

Which is... that an offense headed by O happened to match a random statistic of a Miles offense against worse competition? Cool, take the W.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:46 am to
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Average defensive rank in the 6 game winning streak was 77.



In 2015 our wins were against defenses with an avg ranking of 83rd.

The losses came against teams with a def rank of 11.6
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
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the first half of the season we had an offense led by a qb that had only been on the team for a few months but lets ignore that fact

Well I'm using verifiable statistics and you're using, I don't know, your gut? I'm sure you're more reliable than mountains of compiled data though.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
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108 ranked D of Arkansas or the 112 ranked D of Rice.


2015 offense finished against the 102nd and 122nd ranked defenses
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:47 am to
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I said posting facts with the intent of casting negative light....there's a difference.

What other reason would someone post negative facts about a sitting coach...during the offseason....than to make them look bad?




Because facts are the truth.

You can't just omit facts because they may be unpleasant.

The way some of you think is becoming clearer and clearer. If you ignore facts you can trick yourself into anything.
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:48 am to
I didn't bring up or defend the 2015 offense, so deconstruct your strawman.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:50 am to

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Which is... that an offense headed by O happened to match a random statistic


Sorry man, facts are facts.

You can whine all you want.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:51 am to

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Because facts are the truth.


Correct. It appears the 2015 offense everyone touts was smoke and mirrors.

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:51 am to
Rog are you lucid? You're not making any sense and I am growing concerned.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:54 am to
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. If you ignore facts


You mean facts showing the offense is improving?

Cool.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70833 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:54 am to
Link?
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:55 am to
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You can't just omit facts because they may be unpleasant.


but that happens all the time on here.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:57 am to
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Facts are that the LSU football program is in great shape.


This is an opinion, backed by facts.

quote:

Facts are the offense improved over the last third of the season



This is also an opinion. Saying that the offense performed better would be a fact.

quote:

Facts are we are returning one of the more experienced squads in the country



This is the only fact you've stated.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:58 am to
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This is an opinion,


quote:

This is also an opinion
:rotflmao:

Goldfish doesn't like facts.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 11:00 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 10:59 am to
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Because facts are the truth.

You can't just omit facts because they may be unpleasant.

The way some of you think is becoming clearer and clearer. If you ignore facts you can trick yourself into anything.





You missed the entire point I was making.....shocker.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70833 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:01 am to
You’re expecting him to know the difference when he doesn’t.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:04 am to
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You’re expecting him to know the difference when he doesn’t.


Fact, the offense improved

Look at La Tech and Southeastern game, compare to the last 4 games of the season.

Against comparable defenses, the offense improved dramatically.

Fact.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70833 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:06 am to
No that’s called cherry picking. Do you go around saying LSU went undefeated last season? Because if you applied the logic you use for the offense to the team and cherry picked the best games, LSU went undefeated in those games so they were undefeated. This is how stupid your argument is.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 11:08 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:10 am to
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No that’s called cherry picking


You people just use the term when it destroys your argument.

Against comparable defenses, the offense improved.

Do you even understand the terms you use?

That would be like me calling using the last 4 games of the season defensive stats of opponent as "cherry picking"

Strawman,
Cherry picking
Liar

Got all your terms out of the way.

Now here comes the ad hominem.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70833 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am to
No we use it when it’s applicable. Lol now you’re crying foul when you’re called out on your bullshite and claiming some insane victory. Delusional and pathetic, par for the course for you.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 11:20 am
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