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re: BR sports guys go after Aranda

Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:27 am to
Posted by BayouCowboy
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:27 am to
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Except there was a consensus across the board nationally that Aranda was a great DC (has been contacted by other teams many time) as well as has the statistics to prove he is a good DC. Coach O had none of those things.

I don't think anyone has said he's a bad DC. He's one of the tops in CFB. He isn't above reproach either. There's a standard that LSU has set and both should be held to that. He's going to have games that he's outcoached. Obviously so is Orgeron. Why give one a pass and not the other?

If Orgeron makes bad decisions as the HC he needs to be held accountable. If Aranda calls a bad game as DC or his D is unprepared he needs to be held accountable. Correct?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:29 am to
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If Aranda calls a bad game as DC or his D is unprepared he needs to be held accountable. Correct?


We had DBs in position to make plays most of the night. Not much more any coach can do. Missed tackles, misplaying the ball, it happens. Unfortunately it happened several times that night. Tee two long TDs are both perfect examples.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:29 am to
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A small contingent of the fan base has an inexplicable vendetta against Aranda. It’s odd.


You have an inexplicable vendetta against O. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:32 am to
Exactly Cowboy, I’m fine with everyone on staff being held accountable for their coaching. That includes Aranda. How many teams you do know averaged 60% on 3rd down, pass for over 400 yards without turnovers yet lose?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:33 am to
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Post the transcript of their broadcast this morning if you have the balls.






This is as dumb as your OP
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:34 am to
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How many teams you do know averaged 60% on 3rd down, pass for over 400 yards without turnovers yet lose?


How many teams do you know specifics for their games besides LSU?
Posted by Gutsandbutts
Member since Sep 2011
811 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:34 am to
Schemes weren’t too bad. Our tackling was atrocious.
Posted by Billder
Where you live
Member since Nov 2009
5249 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:37 am to
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A small contingent of the fan base has an inexplicable vendetta against Aranda. It’s odd.


Hoping you are being sarcastic. If you are not....that is rich coming from you.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:40 am
Posted by Geauxst Writer
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2015
4960 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:40 am to
Fact is, Aranda needs to tighten up the D. Texas was scoring at will in the second half and UCF ( no DBs ) lit us up, and we lost late leads against A&M, and Florida last year and Notre Dame the year before in the Bowl game. I love Aranda , but his unit needs to improve.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299445 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:41 am to
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A small contingent of the fan base has an inexplicable vendetta against Aranda. It’s odd.
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Hoping you are being sarcastic. If you are not....that is rich.


Considering that poster, you bet.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:41 am to
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and Notre Dame the year before in the Bowl game


Get fricked with this BS. The offense did nothing the entire game and you want to act like Aranda lost that game?
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:44 am
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:41 am to
From the Advocate this morning:
quote:

Orgeron made it clear he believed Ehlinger "can throw the football." He was just more concerned about the Longhorn's threat as a runner and built a game plan focused on that danger.

Orgeron had his defensive linemen execute what he called a "cage rush," in which the linemen bull rush their blockers to box in the opposing quarterback. Chaisson was also sent off the edge to jam another blocker into the pocket, creating pressure on the quarterback.

That kind of scheme won't produce many sacks, since the majority of the rushers aren't truly attempting to get into the backfield. But it still followed a long-held theory by New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick that pressure on the quarterback can lead to more bad plays than sacks do.

In other words, if Ehlinger was going to beat LSU, he was going to have do it with his arm, going against a Tigers secondary that Orgeron said is the best he's ever coached.

Ehlinger did beat the LSU defense as a passer, and if LSU quarterback Joe Burrow hadn't matched Ehlinger with the second-best passing performance in school history, it may have been the Longhorns who'd have the inside track to the College Football Playoff.

The defensive game plan didn't show anything definitive through Texas' second drive of the game. There was both success and struggle.

On first-and-10 at the LSU 36, Tigers defensive end Glen Logan shoved the left guard nearly into Ehlinger, and the quarterback was still able to complete a 28-yard pass to Brennan Eagles down the left sideline.


Inside the LSU 'cage rush' game plan that gave up 400 passing yards and how it will be fixed
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:42 am to
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Our tackling was atrocious.

Right on.

They ran through us like it was nothing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:43 am to
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Orgeron made it clear he believed Ehlinger "can throw the football." He was just more concerned about the Longhorn's threat as a runner and built a game plan focused on that danger.


Uh oh, Op isn't going to like that this was O's plan

ETA: And before one of yall accuses me of saying this was a shitty plan, it wasn't. With our DBs, taking away Elingers's running was absolutely the right call. And unfortunately a few missed tackles and missed pass break ups made the game way closer than it could have been.
This post was edited on 9/11/19 at 8:45 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12956 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:45 am to
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A small contingent of the fan base has an inexplicable vendetta against Aranda. It’s odd.




Or maybe they are concerned our D's performance after a poor outing. We still don't seem to be able to generate pressure to effect the QB. With our DB's we should be able to get some coverage sacks.
Aranda is a really good DC but I'm not sure he's as outstanding as some have made him out to be.
This is his year to demonstrate his chops. We have an offense that should be able to produce enough points. O and Aranda have to assume that the defense may be on the field a little more if we continue to score quickly. So they need a contingency for rotation to keep guys fresh.
It's ironic in many ways. In the past we always lamented the plight of the D having to" carry the water" because the offense was putrid. Now, we can lament that they need to step up because the offense looks productive and awesome.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:46 am to
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We still don't seem to be able to generate pressure to effect the QB.


That was by design.
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Aranda is a really good DC but I'm not sure he's as outstanding as some have made him out to be.


Then you don't know much
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
14901 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:46 am to
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don't think anyone has said he's a bad DC. He's one of the tops in CFB. He isn't above reproach either. There's a standard that LSU has set and both should be held to that. He's going to have games that he's outcoached. Obviously so is Orgeron. Why give one a pass and not the other?



No one is “giving him a pass”. But he’s earned enough clout to be given the benefit of doubt. He made a game plan that, on paper, was a sound plan that worked almost flawlessly in the first half. Texas did not make any adjustments to their offensive game plan in the 2nd half. None. So the idea that “Texas made adjustments at half but Aranda didn’t” does not apply here.

It was a series of unfortunate events that allowed Texas to even be remotely in that game. I will list them again for about the 100th time for anyone who wasn’t paying attention.

1: The defense got cocky and overconfident after pretty much shutting Texas out in the first half.

2: The team did not use proper hydration technique for some stupid reason (likely due to #1 in my opinion)

3: Texas managed to sustain a lengthy drive coming out halftime that along with the lack of proper hydration, caused our defense to get completely gassed and exhausted. We watched this exact scenario play out last year against A&M. We shut them down early in the game but towards the end the defense was worn the frick out and A&M started making big plays just like Texas did.
Posted by Bandits58
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2015
3718 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:46 am to
A coach that makes 3 million a year and u give up 60% on 3rd down!!! U dam right u deserve to get criticized!! He isn’t worth 3 million a year!!! Suck it up!!
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:46 am to
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We still don't seem to be able to generate pressure to effect the QB

I agree. That it's 2019 and there are still issues with DL depth and talent is a huge problem.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68819 posts
Posted on 9/11/19 at 8:48 am to
Stats would have been different if they had been able to tackle Duvenay
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