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re: Boyd's World RPI Needs Report: Update on 5/14 *see notes in OP

Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:44 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:44 am to
Meh. It's a flawed calculation and that gets addressed in the very first post. I'm sorry you have an issue with the wording of the title.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:47 am to
Ok fine... lsu wins out they are top 8 without any doubt. Sec tourney and other win % unchanged.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:49 am to
7 straight and 6 of those over top 15 3 on the road before the tourney we are top 8 and it's not debatable.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:52 am to
Top 8 what? Seed? Yeah, that was a given regardless of RPI. 21 SEC wins plus winning 12 of your last 14 regular season games would do it. But RPI top 8 "Without any doubt" just isn't true. The teams ahead could technically play just as well and hold their spots. And their opponents could win as well improving their opponent winning %.

ETA: Not to say that we wouldn't. I think we do. Just arguing with "without a doubt" on your part which, at this point, seems a little hypocritical.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 7:56 am
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:56 am to
Why do we even have rpi and rankings if in the end a committee sits down with a cocktail on Sunday afternoon and just picks this shite. I hate statistical websites saying we've addressed "various scenarios" and with certainty can say anything when it's all bs. You just argued with me making the exact same statement which tells me you have a similar mind if it's not your thread.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 7:58 am to
Neither the website nor I have said anything with certainty. You have though...

And I think rankings/RPI help the uninformed fan. That includes me. I can't watch every game. My problem with them is that rankings shouldn't come out until mid April. Preseason is pointless and only leads to pollster biases who have a hard time admitting what they thought was wrong.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 8:00 am
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:00 am to
"There is now no scenario" - that's as certain as it gets. Caveats can't undo that. They only undermine it.
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
4350 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:01 am to
How about this - "if nothing changes, here's how things shake out".... much clearer, much less definitive, and quite frankly much more honest
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:05 am to
We've already established that the title upsets you. But it's a title limited by characters. I could have added "according to Boyd's World" at the end I suppose. Can't now though. And I could take your suggestion and completely reword it, but then I'm "backtracking" according to others. I'd rather just leave it and lean on the OP content that explains since the beginning the issues with the site's scenarios
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 8:06 am
Posted by jlbasm
Aledo, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:07 am to
ok I'll just leave it to you to defend... Good news is there's only like five of us that are informed on the topic enough to even need to discuss it with
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:09 am to
What's this "us" about? Poncho has let everyone know that I don't know shite about sports.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:34 am to
Looks like Boyd got his stats wrong.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:35 am to
That and he's wrong about LSU's remaining games. I don't think he picked up on us losing he San Diego St game. It says we still have 3 home games remaining.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:49 am to
That seems right. Two versus Auburn and NWST. I think it was updated before last night's Auburn game.

Nevermind I looked again and it's updated as of today. So yeah he has us all jacked up.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 8:51 am
Posted by mattgr1983
Austin, Tx
Member since Oct 2012
2434 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:50 am to
quote:

"There is now no scenario" - that's as certain as it gets. Caveats can't undo that. They only undermine it.



This is pretty straight forward logic.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
16752 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:55 am to
This is dumb. You claim "No scenario", but yet you admit you are assuming other teams hold and not including conference tourney.

Seems like a fairly simple scenario if you include those factors...which are huge factors.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86734 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 8:59 am to
No. I claimed that LSU would get a top 8 RPI if we won out. This site had a different conclusion based on a calculation that it admits is flawed. I just stated a thread on it.
Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 9:56 am to
Baw you really fricked up this time
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86734 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 10:32 am to
Omg. Like. So bad, baw.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/13/17 at 10:35 am to
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