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re: Bolt forum site "Did Jarrett Lee do enough to earn a roster spot"

Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:45 am to
Posted by KeyserSoze999
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 8:45 am to
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Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 12:22 pm to
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Seemed to throw to his first option all night. All of that should sound very familiar to any LSU fan


Sounds familiar, but not when talking about JL. I saw JL throw to the check down receiver a couple of times as well as scan the field before throwing an intermediate pass. Obviously I can't tell if he is looking off of a receiver or going through progressions, but the results were pretty good.

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That 5th string DB who won't make the roster got a hand on it. PP7 would have walked that back to the other end zone for 6.


Honestly, isn't saying that PP7 would have intercepted the ball kinda like saying Michael Jordan would have dunked it? PP7 is an incredible player, even by NFL standards. And does every interception have to turn into a Pick-6 in your mind?

I truly hope that JL throws a few more TD's next week and makes it onto a final roster somewhere. I think that the last game increased his chances to get onto Green Bay (who has recent fond memories of NFL QB's) as much as the Chargers. To could probably cement his stay if he comes in next week and puts together TD drives back to back. Doesn't matter if he throws for them.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 12:23 pm to
bama defense is scarier than the pros imo
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 12:53 pm to
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Honestly, isn't saying that PP7 would have intercepted the ball kinda like saying Michael Jordan would have dunked it? PP7 is an incredible player, even by NFL standards. And does every interception have to turn into a Pick-6 in your mind?



My point was the ANY NFL starting cornerback would have intercepted that ball. It was the last drive of the 4th quarter in the first preseason game, so you can imagine the type of corner that was defending that play, and he still got a hand on the ball. I said PP because it's an LSU site.

And did you watch the game and see the pass? It was awful, and no not every interception has to be a pick 6, but a first team NFL DB would have taken it to the house very easily. It was a 5 yard out route. Step in front of that and literally no one touches him on the way to the end zone.


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I truly hope that JL throws a few more TD's next week and makes it onto a final roster somewhere.


I do too. I'm one of the few people on this board who was supportive of Lee back in 08, and have nothing but good will towards him, (I like and support JJ a lot too, so once again, put me in the minority of people on this board that don't think you have to hate on one to support the other), but like I said, I doubt Lee will get in before the 4th quarter in the next game.

Rivers will play most of the first half, and after that the coaches are going to want to see Whitehurst. They need to see what he can do because I guarantee you they would much rather have him as a #2 going into this season than JL if he can get the playbook down.


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could probably cement his stay if he comes in next week and puts together TD drives back to back. Doesn't matter if he throws for them.



Perhaps you're more of a college fan, who probably doesn't realize how much it takes to make a final 53 man NFL roster, specifically at the QB position.

It's going to take a lot more than that, unless Whitehurst completely shits the bed, which I guess is possible.


This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 12:57 pm
Posted by JabarkusRussell
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 1:12 pm to
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They want a vet at #2, not a rookie.


Why? The Packers went with a rookie backing up Rodgers a few years ago.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 1:34 pm to
Voodoo, you seem to be highly critical of a rookie QB getting his first ever NFL action. Nobody is claiming that Lee is about to replace Phillip Rivers as the starter. We are pulling for him to make the team. Nobody said he was perfect. I watched a good bit of preseason action this week. You know who else threw some poor passes and got intercepted? Phillip Rivers, Peyton Manning...
Posted by mmcgrath
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 2:14 pm to
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And did you watch the game and see the pass? It was awful, and no not every interception has to be a pick 6, but a first team NFL DB would have taken it to the house very easily. It was a 5 yard out route. Step in front of that and literally no one touches him on the way to the end zone.


I saw the game, but don't remember that pass at all, or at least it being that bad. Honest. I suspect that if you look at Rivers' actual interception where the defender caught it in his gut you would think it was the worst thing in the world. Does he have to worry about Whitehurst too?

I view a corner getting a hand on a ball to be a good defensive play, not some indictment on the QB.

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Perhaps you're more of a college fan, who probably doesn't realize how much it takes to make a final 53 man NFL roster, specifically at the QB position.



Yeah, clearly I am not an expert like you.

I suspect that neither one of us is an expert and I can see you would gladly eat crow if he makes it, so . I just hope you are wrong twice

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Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 2:31 pm to
Haha that's awesome!! Great find

No I'll happily admit if I'm wrong, just like I'm more than happy that Flynn proved me wrong. That's dedication to hunt that down dude!

As for Rivers, proven Pro Bowl QB with years of elite play, and others throwing picks, of course everyone has bad plays. But a few of Lee's plays just seem to show the same tendencies he did in college that would prevent him from succeeding at the next level, such as staring down receivers and throwing off back foot.

But admittedly, I'm usually very hesitant to get my hopes up about LSU guys in the pros, hence my Flynn post back then. The pool is so much smaller up there, that tons of great college players can't find a spot.

And I was much more confident in Flynn's abilities than I am about Lee's. My main concern there was GB's QB depth, which is why I said it sucked because if he got cut late it would hurt his chances of getting on somewhere else.

Here though, SD doesn't have anywhere near that depth, and this is actually probably the best chance Lee can hope for, a team with NO other guys to give snaps to. So Lee is in a better position to grab a spot, even if his NFL skills aren't as developed as Flynn's were imo.

Regardless, I'll be watching closely and cheering him on every step of the way. Just would rather be wrong like with Flynn than charging ahead like so many LSU fans everytime a former Tiger makes a play in the preseason and proclaiming him a roster/pro bowl/ HOF lock just because I loved them and they were studs in college.


This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 2:43 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 2:36 pm to
I like JL and hope he has a great career, but it would be amazing to me if he does. Or was the QB coaching at lsu just that bad? Bc he never seemed like nfl material to me.
Posted by ottothewise
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 2:46 pm to
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Nice to see JL perform well and be appreciated. Hopefully he will continue to progress during the preseason and at least catch on with a practice team this year.




He will be holding a clipboard on the sidelines until starter goes down again. Starter is already injured. I dont see him being on the practice squad unless Seahawks trade for an experienced QB.
I think he's going to start some games.

This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 2:47 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 2:56 pm to
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This sucks for Matt, cause I think he really has the talent to make a roster, but he'll get cut in GB. With Rodgers, Nall, and Brohm, there just isn't room for him. And that's assuming Favre doesn't come back.

I'd be very surprised if he makes the final roster.

Sucks, cause he'll be behind with any other team he signs on with.


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Perhaps you're more of a college fan, who probably doesn't realize how much it takes to make a final 53 man NFL roster, specifically at the QB position.

It's going to take a lot more than that, unless Whitehurst completely shits the bed, which I guess is possible.

Posted by MOT
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:02 pm to
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He will be holding a clipboard on the sidelines until starter goes down again. Starter is already injured. I dont see him being on the practice squad unless Seahawks trade for an experienced QB.
I think he's going to start some games.

Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:05 pm to
What's your point Doc?

You saying Lee is a lock to make the roster?

I said in that post I thought Flynn had NFL talent, but GB just had too much on front of him. I'm shocked this day they kept 4 QBs that year. It almost never happens, but obviously I'm really glad they did and Flynn didn't disappoint.

But I don't think Lee is as good of an NFL prospect as Flynn. He is in a good place though, without much competition, but I'll be shocked if Whitehurst doesn't get much more PT than him next week.

Do I need to go and pull all of your idiotic posts from 08 to have you move on?
Posted by AreJay
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:05 pm to
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Rivers will play most of the first half, and after that the coaches are going to want to see Whitehurst. They need to see what he can do because I guarantee you they would much rather have him as a #2 going into this season than JL if he can get the playbook down.


they really gonna play rivers the whole first half in preseason game #2? brees didnt make it through the 1st quarter in game 2
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:06 pm to
Yeah no clue what that means.

Rivers is not hurt.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:08 pm to
The Saints have an extra game. Their 3rd will be similar to other teams' 2nd.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:10 pm to
Rivers will play well into the second quarter, most of the first half, yes.
This post was edited on 8/12/12 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:12 pm to
Right. The Saints were on a short week. That was kind of a throw away game.
Posted by we_geaux_harder
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Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:22 pm to
There will never be an argument settled on this board like they did on that board...they had smiley faces and everything...im stunned...
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36931 posts
Posted on 8/12/12 at 3:26 pm to
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No I'll happily admit if I'm wrong, just like I'm more than happy that Flynn proved me wrong. That's dedication to hunt that down dude!


Definitely took more effort than I thought to go back to 2008, but I try to finish what I start. To your credit, you had some really nice posts along the way, including being all over RR being the future before he got here.

I though that Lee had it way over Harrell (as a 3rd year guy) before Harrell recovered a lot in Green Bay's eyes. Lee may have still impressed more. Their last guy looked talented as all heck, but sounded inconsistent.

I think that San Diego is looking to make a decision on the one they refer to as "Clipboard Jesus" If they don't see enough, then they may just go with JL and look to pick up a vet after the final cuts. I don't think that any team likes to play a 1st year QB unless they were a 1st round pick, and even then...
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