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re: Big difference between O and Miles.....
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:02 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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so not getting HC offers proves miles sucks?
If no one hires Miles, it's because they can see, unlike you, that he was a very mediocre head coach at best. You may not like it, but nonetheless, that's the way it is.
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so you're saying O sucks because 29 of his 32 year career no ad has thought enough of his coaching to give him a coordinators job , let alone a HC job.
That's exceedingly stupid. Coach O never wanted to be a coordinator. He said, he preferred to coach defensive lineman like Pete Jenkins and loved to recruit players instead, and he was very good at it, as coach O coached a lot of hall of famers, and he is also very good at being a head coach, unlike your idol Less Miles who will never be a head coach ever again because no one hires mediocrity unless they are mediocre, like you, themselves.
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you actually argue that firing a coach with the worst tenure in ole miss history was wrong, undeserved,
and his tenure wasnt that bad.
He didn't have the worst tenure of at Ole Miss. That is a deliberate misrepresentation of facts made by loons, liars, and haters of Coach O and lovers of Less Miles.
Nonetheless, coach O just inherited some very piss poor players from his predecessor, sort of like one of your idol's, Tom Herman at Texas also did.
However, unlike his predecessor and his successor, Coach O recruited some very good football players while at Ole Miss. In fact, Coach Hugh Freeze and other Ole Miss assistants as well all claim that had Coach O been given the final year of his contract that he would probably still be the head coach of Ole Miss today. Which was proven when Houston Nutt came in and won instantly with Coach O's players and then subsequently couldn't win with his own players.
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you say I defend miles but if Miles had the worst resume in lsu history i would make it out to be not his fault.
If Less Miles' record at LSU was truly representative of the kind of coach he was, he would already have a new head coaching job. The fact that he doesn't and will never ever work as a head coach again also proves his record isn't indicative of the kind of coach he was and still is. The truth is Less Miles was a very lame and mediocre coach in the eyes of most sane people. You can continue to deny it, but that nonetheless is the way it is, and the fact that no AD will touch him with a ten-foot pole today proves it.
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Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:03 pm to Madking
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Lmao re-opened his recruitment, if you were lawyer you'd suck at it.
How do you continually read facts and just ignore them?
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:09 pm to LSU Groupee
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Also, one has won SECW titles, SEC titles, NC and one hasn't.
But no one will ever hire him to be a head coach again. Indeed, Less Miles will never work as a head coach ever again because everyone knows his record at LSU isn't indicative of the kind of lame and very mediocre coach he actually was and still is. Less Miles may have fooled a few gullible useful idiot homers like you and your ilk, but most intelligent people can see behind the smoke screen.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:18 pm to Wind Rivers Tiger
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Fair point. However, he does talk as if he couldn't pass a 6th grade English exam.
That's very false, unlike his predecessor, Less Miles, Coach O is an extremely good speaker. Apparently, you don't watch his press conferences. He is very articulate. Now his voice may sound like that of a wrestler, but nonetheless, he is very articulate.
His predecessor, on the other hand, sounded like he couldn't pass a kindergarten exam, as not only was he completely inarticulate, but no one could ever understand that lunatic.
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:25 pm to Space Cowboy
Please shut up Derek p
Posted on 9/8/17 at 11:27 pm to Space Cowboy
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he is very articulate.
Sounds just like Ronald Reagan.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:43 am to Space Cowboy
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everyone knows his record at LSU
Is the most successful in LSU history.
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most intelligent people can
Appreciate the success he gave LSU, admit it was time for him to go, dislike the firing/hiring process, and not act like a D-bag every time his name comes up.
And then others, like you, have to act like classless jerks.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:49 am
Posted on 9/9/17 at 3:11 am to Space Cowboy
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Coach O never wanted to be a coordinator. He preferred to coach defensive lineman and loved to recruit players instead, and he was very good at it, and he is also very good at being a head coach
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He didn't have the worst tenure of at Ole Miss. That is a deliberate misrepresentation of facts made by loons, liars and haters of coach O
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Coach O recruited some very good players while at Ole Miss. In fact, Coach Hugh Freeze and other Ole Miss assistants as well all claim that had coach O been given the final year of his contract that he would probably still be the head coach of Ole Miss today.
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Coach O is a very good speaker. he is very articulate.
How much money are you getting to represent Ed Orgeron Space Clownboy? And if you're not getting paid, you need to go wash off your face, you got coach O's butt cheese all over it.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 5:47 am to SportTiger1
It's called sarcasm you dolt. You have serious comprehension issues. Try reading the entire back and forth or maybe a full post instead of one sentence from a conversation. You might actually understand something one day. And btw accusing someone of doing exactly what you do just makes you look stupid.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 6:33 am
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:00 am to LSU Groupee
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Is the most successful in LSU history.
If his record was reflective of the kind of coach he was, he would already have a new head coaching gig somewhere else. However, his record is not indicative of his coaching career, as Less Miles is a very lame and a very mediocre coach at best and that is why Less Miles will never be a head coach ever again. Indeed, believe it or not, most people are far more intelligent than you are, so unlike you, they are capable of seeing behind the smoke screen.
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And then others, like you, have to act like classless jerks.
Pointing out that Less Miles was always lame and very mediocre in response to you Less Miles' homers who claim ad nauseam he was the best coach that ever coached in history is not classless, it's the damn truth.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:07 am to earl keese
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How much money are you getting to represent Ed Orgeron Space Clownboy? And if you're not getting paid, you need to go wash off your face, you got coach O's butt cheese all over it.
I get nothing for representing the truth. Meanwhile, how much is Less Miles paying you to constantly denigrate, vilify, and demonize Coach O as if he is evil incarnate when the truth is he is a hell of a lot better coach than Less Miles ever was?
Indeed, with Coach O's team playing so well last week you must have been very sick all this week. Well, get ready to get sick for another week you Nega-tiger.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 9:44 am to Space Cowboy
Too bad we all never got tens of millions to be so "average" in our jobs.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 10:55 am to Space Cowboy
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Less Miles is a very lame and a very mediocre coach
LSU from 2005 to 2015 won more games overall than ANY other SEC team. If that's what you call mediocre, then you are a clueless clown when it comes to college football or a scum sucking troll. You pick which.
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Less Miles was always lame and very mediocre
Point it out all you want, but all you are really pointing out to everyone is that you have ZERO credibility when it comes to discussing the Les Miles time at LSU. But then, we all know that already.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:08 am to Space Cowboy
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I get nothing for representing the truthquote:
when the truth is he is a hell of a lot better coach than Less Miles ever was?
You are entitled to your own opinion not your facts.
Les Miles had 1 losing season in his career. O had 3 in his only 3 seasons as a full time coach so far. Miles took over an OSU program that had 11losing seasons in 12 years prior and had 3 winning seasons in 4 years. Orgeron won a 10 games in 3 years at OM including just 3 in SEC. 2 years before O was hired OM won 10 games. The year after he was fired they won 9. By no objective measure can you argue at this stage in his career that Orgeron is better than Miles.
You can think he will do better in the future particularly better than the last 3-4 years, that's fine. But just because you are biased against Miles and in favor of O doesn't mean everyone shares your irrational view that we either love Miles or O and hate the other. I judge them based on what they do as coaches.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:15 am to Space Cowboy
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If no one hires Miles, it's because they can see, unlike you, that he was a very mediocre head coach at best.
LSU was the only gig he could get. The Michigan and Arkansas stuff were just to get a raise.
LSU fans weren't the only ones watching the LSU offense run into brick wall after brick wall.
I like Coach Miles, but he's a Kevin Sumlin type of coach with one championship in a very fortunate season.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 11:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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LSU was the only gig he could get
That's simply not true. He would have gotten other offers if LSU had not hired him in 2005. He had drawn interest before LSU. He is now 63 almost 64 that is the main reason he won't likely coach again.
CheeriOs like to ignore Os record at OM, saying coaches can improve. Well the opposite is also true they can and do decline. Miles time had come,the game passed him by and he failed to adapt that does not however detract from what he did in the past. To say no one would have been interested in him after 2010-11 is ridiculous. He has the highest winning percentage in LSU history if anyone thinks that's mediocre then their standards are out of whack.
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:33 pm to H-Town Tiger
" he is now 63 almost 64"
It's amusing to me that people don't seem to be willing to except his age as a high hurdle for a AD to overcome.
The average age for the last 22 FBS coaching hires was 43. Only one 60 or over head coach was hired at a FBS program since 2014.
It's amusing to me that people don't seem to be willing to except his age as a high hurdle for a AD to overcome.
The average age for the last 22 FBS coaching hires was 43. Only one 60 or over head coach was hired at a FBS program since 2014.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:37 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Les Miles had 1 losing season in his career. O had 3 in his only 3 seasons as a full time coach so far.
If everyone was as stupid as you are, Less Miles would already have another head coaching job. However, he doesn't precisely because everyone isn't nearly as stupid as you are.
Furthermore, if coach O was as bad as you stupidly allege, coach O wouldn't have a head coaching job like he has today. However, coach O does have a head coaching job today, precisely because everyone isn't nearly as stupid as you are.
As for as the rest of your garbage goes, I already refuted all of that nonsense ad nauseam and I'm not about to waste my time doing it again, not for someone as stupid and as dumb you obviously are relative to the average person.
You must be a miserable human being having to watch a coach O coached LSU football team beating its opponents so thoroughly very unlike your very mediocre Idol Less Miles.
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:48 pm to Space Cowboy
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You must be a miserable human being having to watch a coach O coached LSU football team beating its opponents so thoroughly very unlike your very mediocre Idol Less Miles
I'm not the one that has to insult stangers on a message board because they disagree. All your posts scream insecurity. The irony is you idolize O and all your posts make him look worse.
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As for as the rest of your garbage goes, I already refuted all of that nonsense ad nauseam and I'm not about to waste my time doing it again
In other words I can not refute the fact that Les Miles record is better so I will revert to insults.
O has coached 52 games he is 23-29. After his first 52 games Miles was 30-22. 30-22 >23-29
This post was edited on 9/9/17 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 9/9/17 at 12:54 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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It's amusing to me that people don't seem to be willing to except his age as a high hurdle for a AD to overcome.
The average age for the last 22 FBS coaching hires was 43. Only one 60 or over head coach was hired at a FBS program since 2014.
I wouldn't doubt that he doesn't get another job for this simple fact. Most coaches are looking for someone to stay 7-10years. Miles ain't doing that.
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