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Posted on 6/16/09 at 9:43 am to LSU_postman
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The bats being dialed back is the big question mark to me..If we were using those bats today our numbers would be higher, and if those teams from the 90's were using today's bats no way you have 188...
The other 300 or so division I teams use the same bats. We were first in HRs by a mile in 1997. This year's team is 32. There is no comparison of the power between the two teams.
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Besides I really don't think the main way to measure the greatness of the team is by how many bombs it can hit.
You're right, but the 57-13 record speaks for itself. We simply dominated teams in 1997. The current team has shown it can dominate in the postseason thus far, but nothing like the 1997 team.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 9:51 am to JustSmokin
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You're right, but the 57-13 record speaks for itself. We simply dominated teams in 1997. The current team has shown it can dominate in the postseason thus far, but nothing like the 1997 team.
Would you stipulate that the parity in College ball is much greater now and far more difficult to dominate in today's game?
I think so, and based on that our record to me is more impressive. The SEC is tougher today than IMO. IN addition the Format change with the SR added in as well..Just seems that it is alot more competitive today then back then.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 9:52 am to Suck Out West
The bats being a tiny bit wider doesn't account for twice as many HR's... especially when the other teams had them too.
Doug Thompson was money. Brandon Larson was insane. Coogan was money. Blair Barbier, Danny Higgins, Eddie Furniss, Shipp, Jason WIlliams, Wes Davis... they were great.
This team still has 4 games to play... let's hold off with the victory parade just yet.
Doug Thompson was money. Brandon Larson was insane. Coogan was money. Blair Barbier, Danny Higgins, Eddie Furniss, Shipp, Jason WIlliams, Wes Davis... they were great.
This team still has 4 games to play... let's hold off with the victory parade just yet.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 9:52 am to LSU_postman
Brandon Larson supplied that 97 team with the good roids
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:04 am to LSU_postman
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The SEC is tougher today than IMO
That's just wrong. 97 CWS had 4 (four) teams from the SEC West. And that doesn't count a very good UF team or Tenn.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:09 am to Billy Ray Valentine
The pitching on the 97 team was every bit as good as 09 (outside of a dominant closer). Overall, starters were better (Coogan/Thompson just as good as LC/AR) and the other starters/pitchers were much better (Shipp, Painich, Demouy, Daugherty, etc. better than Ross & Co.)
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:13 am to Billy Ray Valentine
This is WAY premature.
ONE game at a time. LSU plays again on Friday, don't look past that game.
This entire thread should be deleted with apologies to the baseball gods.
ONE game at a time. LSU plays again on Friday, don't look past that game.
This entire thread should be deleted with apologies to the baseball gods.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:15 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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the 97 team
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Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:16 am to Billy Ray Valentine
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The pitching on the 97 team was every bit as good as 09 (outside of a dominant closer). Overall, starters were better (Coogan/Thompson just as good as LC/AR) and the other starters/pitchers were much better (Shipp, Painich, Demouy, Daugherty, etc. better than Ross & Co.)
Player ERA W-L APP GS CG SHO/CBO SV IP H R ER BB SO 2B 3B HR AB B/Avg WP HBP BK SFA SHA
34 Chris Demouy..... 3.63 6-1 36 3 0 0/1 5 62.0 59 28 25 24 70 12 1 4 234 .252 7 4 0 1 4
25 Kevin Shipp...... 4.10 4-1 11 8 1 0/0 0 52.2 56 30 24 10 56 8 0 8 213 .263 0 1 0 0 1
32 Patrick Coogan... 4.46 14-3 25 17 3 0/1 3 125.0 114 69 62 36 144 25 6 14 480 .238 15 5 2 5 1
30 Joey Painich..... 4.52 9-2 22 13 0 0/0 1 77.2 81 47 39 27 72 13 1 11 311 .260 10 2 0 6 1
9 Doug Thompson.... 4.63 12-3 25 19 3 1/1 1 124.1 133 73 64 44 158 21 5 18 490 .271 8 3 5 2 3
35 Eric Berthelot... 5.98 7-3 22 10 0 0/1 0 58.2 77 52 39 23 53 12 0 11 244 .316 5 3 0 3
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:20 am to tduecen
its impossible to call. its all going to be opinion.
as for the 188 HRs in 97, they have significantly changed the specs on the bats, so idk. i thought ALL the c-ship teams were the best we've ever had haha
as for the 188 HRs in 97, they have significantly changed the specs on the bats, so idk. i thought ALL the c-ship teams were the best we've ever had haha
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:22 am to tduecen
As with HRs, the ERAs from that era are inflated. Not much difference between 3.99 today and 4.62 in 1997. I'd call it a push.
This post was edited on 6/16/09 at 10:24 am
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:23 am to ENYOMOUT
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This team still has 4 games to play... let's hold off with the victory parade just yet.
Hopefully just 3.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:25 am to Babalugats
I have favoritism for the 96 team to me they were unique and the best.
52-15 record
Eddy Furniness
Warren Morris
Brett Laxton
Mike Koerner
Tim Lanier
Eddy Yarnell
Jayson Williams
Jeremy Whitten
52-15 record
Eddy Furniness
Warren Morris
Brett Laxton
Mike Koerner
Tim Lanier
Eddy Yarnell
Jayson Williams
Jeremy Whitten
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:33 am to tduecen
This 2009 team is a damn good baseball team.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:35 am to Rockerbraves
They are a damn good team but are they the best ever LSU team?
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:43 am to tduecen
Honestly.... We had it so good in the 90's. There's never been this long of a drought between champions. It's fair to say that this team holds the key to getting back to the ultimate respect and to complete the re-energizing of the program, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
This HAS TO HAPPEN. It's been too long for such awesome fans to wait.
This HAS TO HAPPEN. It's been too long for such awesome fans to wait.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:43 am to tduecen
"Eddy Furniness
Warren Morris
Brett Laxton
Mike Koerner
Tim Lanier
Eddy Yarnell
Jayson Williams
Jeremy Whitten"
Tim Lanier was a pleasure to watch behind the plate.

Warren Morris
Brett Laxton
Mike Koerner
Tim Lanier
Eddy Yarnell
Jayson Williams
Jeremy Whitten"
Tim Lanier was a pleasure to watch behind the plate.
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:45 am to BandwagonJumper
I did not realize the 91 team had 7 players make it in MLB. 13 Were drafted and 7 actually saw time on MLB Rosters... Maybe they should be included in discussion
Posted on 6/16/09 at 10:50 am to tduecen
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They are a damn good team but are they the best ever LSU team?
Got to go with the oddsmakers on this one and say this is not LSU best team. Wasn't Vegas giving 45-1 odds only a few weeks ago.
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