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re: Before you declare JJ guilty.....
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:31 pm to TigerKnights
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:31 pm to TigerKnights
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You just lost all credibility.Just because you disagree doesn't make something wrong.
The majority is not always right. That's all I'm saying.
You said that "the vast majority think that Miles did the right thing." I'm just saying the majority isn't always right. And often times it takes a vocal minority to stand up for something to convince people that they should rethink they're opinion.
You disagree with me. It doesn't make me wrong.
I disagree with you. Doesn't make you wrong by definition.
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Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:34 pm to tiger1014
I declare JJ guilty of having great fashion sense when it comes to shoes!
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:35 pm to tiger1014
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You said that "the vast majority think that Miles did the right thing." I'm just saying the majority isn't always right.
What determines what is right? You?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:36 pm to peopleschamp
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I declare JJ guilty of having great fashion sense when it comes to shoes!
With that many pairs, there must be a few poor choices in there
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:37 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What determines what is right? You?
Didn't say that.
What determines it for you? Seems like that is you. Or maybe just whatever the most people say is right is the bar you use?
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:39 pm to tiger1014
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The majority is not always right. That's all I'm saying.
You said that "the vast majority think that Miles did the right thing." I'm just saying the majority isn't always right. And often times it takes a vocal minority to stand up for something to convince people that they should rethink they're opinion.
You disagree with me. It doesn't make me wrong.
I disagree with you. Doesn't make you wrong by definition.
I didn't say you were wrong. In this case there is no right or wrong. Just two sides and pros and cons. Suspend him and potentially cost him irreparable damage if he gets off. Or don't suspend him and potentially have our starting QB taken off to jail and convicted if he doesn't. I think Miles is doing the best he can for the team by giving them a clear leader who has done nothing wrong and ensuring either way things go for JJ the team won't suffer for it. He isn't putting JJ above the team or the university.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:40 pm to TigerKnights
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I didn't say you were wrong. In this case there is no right or wrong. Just two sides and pros and cons. Suspend him and potentially cost him irreparable damage if he gets off. Or don't suspend him and potentially have our starting QB taken off to jail and convicted if he doesn't. I think Miles is doing the best he can for the team by giving them a clear leader who has done nothing wrong and ensuring either way things go for JJ the team won't suffer for it. He isn't putting JJ above the team or the university.
Yay a logical argument!
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:40 pm to TigerKnights
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Bad example. The Duke Players were guilty. They just got away with. Why not bring up OJ or Casey Anthony while you're at it?
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No...the stripper admitted she lied. They were guilty of bad judgment for being there but not guilty of a crime. Careful rushing to judgment.
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Bad example. The Duke Players were guilty. They just got away with. Why not bring up OJ or Casey Anthony while you're at it?
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No...the stripper admitted she lied. They were guilty of bad judgment for being there but not guilty of a crime. Careful rushing to judgment.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:42 pm to tiger1014
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What determines it for you?
Making rational, intelligent decisions. Better to do it early than late.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:43 pm to chipd
Exactly...We don't need a rush to justice. For starters, compare the OVERALL characters of Lowery and Jefferson. What was LOWERY doing there. That's right...shouldn't have been there to START with. And if he was the driver and if HE started it, seems like a moot point to me.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:44 pm to RobbBobb
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And the 20 LSU football players that were there, they were witnesses. who did they finger for the kick?
Oh, thats right. They didnt identify anyone. 20 FB who saw nothing? or 20 FB that saw JJ, but state they saw nothing? You do the math.
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We do not know what the players said. Except for the 4 accused..they have not talked to police and the school has told them not to talk to anyone, so I am not sure where you get your info.
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And the 20 LSU football players that were there, they were witnesses. who did they finger for the kick?
Oh, thats right. They didnt identify anyone. 20 FB who saw nothing? or 20 FB that saw JJ, but state they saw nothing? You do the math.
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We do not know what the players said. Except for the 4 accused..they have not talked to police and the school has told them not to talk to anyone, so I am not sure where you get your info.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:44 pm to LSUfanaddict
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For starters, compare the OVERALL characters of Lowery and Jefferson. What was LOWERY doing there. That's right...shouldn't have been there to START with. And if he was the driver and if HE started it, seems like a moot point to me
is this sarcasm? 
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:45 pm to LSUfanaddict
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What was LOWERY doing there. That's right...shouldn't have been there to START with
Technically, neither should have jj.
Try again.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:49 pm to LSUfanaddict
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What was LOWERY doing there. That's right...shouldn't have been there to START with.
Was Lowery under some sort of curfew we don't know about?
Because if not, he was actually more justified in being there than JJ was.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:50 pm to Godfather1
He was under a restraining order to stay away from his ex-girlfriend. Which was worse? Try again.
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Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I pray JJ is not guilty. If for no one's sake but his own future.
If he's guilty, I believe that will come out in due time.
I'll always support LSU at everything, unless I have a family member playing against them for a different college.
Though we may often disagree, we always find common ground in the fact we love LSU. I miss it every day
That being said, we've all exhausted our points. We shall have to agree to disagree.
I don't agree that just because someone is accused or arrested that they should be suspended from their team/job. There's obviously room for argument and dissent, as many have given valid points.
But though I don't support Coach Miles in his suspension of JJ (well if it was based on the sole fact that he was arrested), he's always getting things done on the field.
If he's guilty, I believe that will come out in due time.
I'll always support LSU at everything, unless I have a family member playing against them for a different college.
Though we may often disagree, we always find common ground in the fact we love LSU. I miss it every day
That being said, we've all exhausted our points. We shall have to agree to disagree.
I don't agree that just because someone is accused or arrested that they should be suspended from their team/job. There's obviously room for argument and dissent, as many have given valid points.
But though I don't support Coach Miles in his suspension of JJ (well if it was based on the sole fact that he was arrested), he's always getting things done on the field.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:51 pm to LSUfanaddict
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He was under a restraining order to stay away from his ex-girlfriend. Try again.
No, you try again. The restraining order wasn't issued until after the incident.
Posted on 8/26/11 at 11:52 pm to chipd
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No...the stripper admitted she lied. They were guilty of bad judgment for being there but not guilty of a crime. Careful rushing to judgment.
I've never heard that she said she lied. I do know that it is extremely difficult to prosecute a rape case. Especially if alcohol is involved or the girl was on drugs or drugged. Regardless of what walk of life you come from no one deserves to be raped. It is possibly the most vile and disgusting act anyone can commit.
Posted on 8/27/11 at 3:20 am to TigerKnights
Like the DA in the Lacrosse scandle BRPD publicly prosecuted and condemned the LSU players immediately upon the accuser and his witness's allegations. it appears that these young men are in fact innocent, or, at the very least, that more than reasonable doubt exist who exactly is involved. The only significant evidence BRPD now clings to is the sole allegation of two people that had over an hour to get thier story straight after finding out what the witnessess that the police officer convinently did not get the names of said they thought LSU football players were involved (btw they never mentioned that anyone was pulled from a truck, that statement only came from Lowery and Long), faulty video, victims not seeking medical treatment for so called serious injuries not to mention Lowery's past history. Hopefully Mr. Moore will not follow in the steps of the Lacrosse DA and will find the real evidence.
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