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re: Baseball: Southeastern Louisiana 5 @ LSU 6, Final
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:18 pm to Gmorgan4982
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:18 pm to Gmorgan4982
So much for that lineup, 7 hits against SLU pitching. Pathetic. Why not give Helenehi a chance again? I brought that up on one of the other boards and was told he wasn't hitting and that was why he was sitting. If that's the case then why wasn't Dean sitting when he wes basically 0 for the last half of March and his BA was off the charts. You can't start hitting if you don't play. That kid was a major contributor last year and deserves another shot. What about Gibbs? I know we need him because he is a very good defensive catcher but his BA has dropped about 60 points in the last 4 weeks. He was moved down in the order tonight and still went 0 for 3. Maybe our hitting coach is the problem. We sure take a lot of pitches, especially called third strikes.
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Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:19 pm to josh336
Josh keep up the good work...seems to me you're more knowledgeable than most on here about this team. Don't let em get to you. 
Anyways, I just got back from the game, and what are your thoughts on Schimpf in LF? I didnt like it. But those 3 double plays sure were sweet.
Anyways, I just got back from the game, and what are your thoughts on Schimpf in LF? I didnt like it. But those 3 double plays sure were sweet.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:21 pm to josh336
Honestly I know the man is a good coach,but for some reason this team has really played lackluster ball.Even in the great series wins they seemed to be out of sync.JMHO.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:22 pm to tford50
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Maybe our hitting coach is the problem. We sure take a lot of pitches, especially called third strikes.
DING DING DING!!!!
If we really need a scapegoat then there it is. If I knew how to fix the problem with our hitting I'd be happy to volunteer our services. Right now it seems to be swing wildly and hope to make solid contact followed by "crap, I didn't hit it so I'd better rest for a second".
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:23 pm to tford50
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Why not give Helenehi a chance again?
do you follow the team, did you start a couple weeks ago? have you seen him hit over the course of a season?
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So much for that lineup, 7 hits against SLU pitching. Pathetic
again, they made some incredible defensive plays and took 2 hits away from us. So, its not all that pathetic.
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If that's the case then why wasn't Dean sitting when he wes basically 0 for the last half of March and his BA was off the charts
Uh, it's Blake fricking Dean. He's earned the right by hitting great at the end of the last 2 seasons. Helenihi hit good for a couple months.
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That kid was a major contributor last year and deserves another shot
If you think he's gonna step in and hit like Dean you have another thing coming. And what was his BA again, since he was such a "major contributor" last season?
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What about Gibbs? I know we need him because he is a very good defensive catcher but his BA has dropped about 60 points in the last 4 weeks. He was moved down in the order tonight and still went 0 for 3.
I'm not even gonna answer this because its clear you don't understand the game.
Let's face it, your suggestions are flawless, you'd make a great coach. How's it feel to be questioned about your decisions?
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:27 pm to josh336
Why does everyone insist on blaming the Hitting Coach for a player's struggles at the plate.
Blake Dean was struggling earlier and we were blaming the Hitting Coach. Now that he's ripping the ball left and right we give him full credit and none to the HC.
The HC is not up there taking horrible swings at balls in the dirt or watching 3 straight with the bat on the shoulder. We have to put some type of burden on the player with the bat in hand.
Blake Dean was struggling earlier and we were blaming the Hitting Coach. Now that he's ripping the ball left and right we give him full credit and none to the HC.
The HC is not up there taking horrible swings at balls in the dirt or watching 3 straight with the bat on the shoulder. We have to put some type of burden on the player with the bat in hand.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:29 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
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Josh keep up the good work...seems to me you're more knowledgeable than most on here about this team. Don't let em get to you.
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Anyways, I just got back from the game, and what are your thoughts on Schimpf in LF? I didnt like it. But those 3 double plays sure were sweet.
Honestly, I didn't like it at first when I heard about the major position changes, I thought it'd be easier to make Lemahieu the DH and put Dean in LF. But it does appear early on that Nola is a little better of a shortstop than Lemahieu. Still don't like Lemahieu at 2nd over Schimpf, I thought he was an excellent 2nd basemen, but I understand Lemahieu has to play somewhere and its much easier to move Schimpf to the OF because he's played there before. Still a little skeptical, but not a big deal, I think it'll work out for the best. If schimpf can learn how to play the outfield again. That one play with the flyball looked bad, but he's got time to work on it.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:33 pm to josh336
Yeah he looked timid on the popup to left. But someone in front of me at the game was saying PM switched DJ to 2nd to give scouts a chance to see him at different positions. 
But overall I think Schimpf is a better 2 bagger than DJ. Do you think it was those two routine errors on Saturday that did him in?
But overall I think Schimpf is a better 2 bagger than DJ. Do you think it was those two routine errors on Saturday that did him in?
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:36 pm to 3rdPart Tiger
I don't, I think PM wanted another right handed batter in the order against lefty pitching, and just to give the team a bit of a spark with the lack of double plays, and it worked tonight.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:39 pm to josh336
Yeah no doubt. I think it may be safe to say this is the first time we turn 3 DPs in one game this season.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 10:51 pm to josh336
You know what Josh I usually agree with what you say but you are really being retarded here. I believe all of my points are valid. I said that I was told that Helenehi wasn't playing because he wasn't hitting. I only used Dean as an example because I felt he was a prime example of a guy who wasn't hitting but continued to play because of who he is and what he had done in the past. I'm not saying that Helenehi is Dean but he deserves another chance. He contributed in a major way in the past and deserves another shot. To me, more of a chance than a guy who was hitting .333 but in only 18 at bats. I'll say it again, How can you hit if you ain't playing? As far as Gibbs, we need him because of his defense, but he should not be hitting 5th. I would love to go back and look at all of the runners he has stranded especially in the last month. I'm sure that stat would be enough to move him down. Josh, you seem to be more than willing to cut certain players slack based on what they have done in the past. Why aren't you willing to do the same thing with Helenehi? As far as your defense of Mainieri, I agree, I like him and think he is a really good coach, but he's not perfect. If certain things he does are subject to criticism then people should have the right to criticize. I think that he should be criticized for his attitude toward mid-week games. Priority should definitely be given to the weekend Conference games, but the mid-week games are also important especially against in state schools and especially late in the season. This team needs to start playing with a sense of urgency in all games. You are not going to tell me that a selection committee sitting down at the end of the season trying to select the top 8 national seeds isn't going to look with great disfavor at losses to Nicholls State, ULL and a very mediocre Tulane team. With another series loss or two those games will probably have a great deal to do with us not getting a top 8 seed.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 11:03 pm to tford50
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You know what Josh I usually agree with what you say but you are really being retarded here. I believe all of my points are valid. I said that I was told that Helenehi wasn't playing because he wasn't hitting. I only used Dean as an example because I felt he was a prime example of a guy who wasn't hitting but continued to play because of who he is and what he had done in the past. I'm not saying that Helenehi is Dean but he deserves another chance. He contributed in a major way in the past and deserves another shot. To me, more of a chance than a guy who was hitting .333 but in only 18 at bats. I'll say it again, How can you hit if you ain't playing? As far as Gibbs, we need him because of his defense, but he should not be hitting 5th. I would love to go back and look at all of the runners he has stranded especially in the last month. I'm sure that stat would be enough to move him down. Josh, you seem to be more than willing to cut certain players slack based on what they have done in the past. Why aren't you willing to do the same thing with Helenehi? As far as your defense of Mainieri, I agree, I like him and think he is a really good coach, but he's not perfect. If certain things he does are subject to criticism then people should have the right to criticize. I think that he should be criticized for his attitude toward mid-week games. Priority should definitely be given to the weekend Conference games, but the mid-week games are also important especially against in state schools and especially late in the season. This team needs to start playing with a sense of urgency in all games. You are not going to tell me that a selection committee sitting down at the end of the season trying to select the top 8 national seeds isn't going to look with great disfavor at losses to Nicholls State, ULL and a very mediocre Tulane team. With another series loss or two those games will probably have a great deal to do with us not getting a top 8 seed.
How about we let the season play out before you make judgments? We lost to McNeese in a midweek game in 2000 and won the National Championship that year and the worst loss in LSU history was in 1997 against Bama (28-2) and we played them again in the National Championship game and won 13-6.
Posted on 4/21/09 at 11:08 pm to tford50
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I'll say it again, How can you hit if you ain't playing?
Helenihi didn't go into a month long slump or anything, it was like a year long slump, he hit great for like 2 months, that leads most to believe he isn't a good hitter.
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As far as Gibbs, we need him because of his defense, but he should not be hitting 5th.
Note: Gibbs hit 8th tonight
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As far as your defense of Mainieri, I agree, I like him and think he is a really good coach, but he's not perfect.
never said he was, i just questioned his decision to make some of these moves tonight
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I think that he should be criticized for his attitude toward mid-week games. Priority should definitely be given to the weekend Conference games, but the mid-week games are also important especially against in state schools and especially late in the season
Check his record this year in midweek games, it's not that bad. Check his career midweek game records compared to Skip's, they are close to even, and Skip's teams played mostly 4 game weeks.
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You are not going to tell me that a selection committee sitting down at the end of the season trying to select the top 8 national seeds isn't going to look with great disfavor at losses to Nicholls State, ULL and a very mediocre Tulane team.
almost if not all teams being considered have a couple losses like this
Posted on 4/21/09 at 11:12 pm to ByteMe
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We lost to McNeese in a midweek game in 2000 and won the National Championship that year
it was either that year or the next that we lost more than 3 midweek games, but posters here don't remember that, most didn't follow the team back then
Posted on 4/21/09 at 11:46 pm to tford50
Forgot about this game. 
Glad the Tigers were able to hang on. Thanks for providing PBP again!
Glad the Tigers were able to hang on. Thanks for providing PBP again!
Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:00 am to josh336
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most didn't follow the team back then
I concur. It's very frustrating to see these people rant.
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