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Baseball Preview: 2017 Edition Feb 10th - Prospects & SEC Prediction

Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am
February. Is. Here.

-Everything in this preview is "my" opinion and analysis, I always welcome everyone’s opinions, thoughts, and criticism, as this is a message board and it's what makes this place great...but please keep it baseball related. I’ve done this preview annually for those friends, family, and alumni who follow the sport however may not be able to see the team early in spring and want to get a better feel for who’s – who.

-The lineup I predict is not only based on what I have seen thus far but how I see the respective positions shaping up throughout the entire regular season.

-MLB uses a 20-80 grading scale to evaluate each draft eligible player based on their skillset of 1) Power 2) Hitting 3) Speed 4) Fielding 5) Arm. Now because 60-70% of all MLB draft eligible prospects fall into the below-average to average skill set it’s not much to look at when previewing a standard collegiate team. To give viewers a better representation of how they stack up on the collegiate level what I’ve done the past few years is grade each player based on their current tools as they compare to other college players. What this does is expand the bell curve a bit and give a better representation of their respective strengths and weaknesses now rather than a projection for a MLB position.

-At the end of each position is a final grade based on the entire unit as a whole including any intangibles as well as depth.

Feb 1st-C Mike Papierski (Jr.)
Feb 2nd-1B Jake Slaughter (Fr.)
Feb 3rd-2B Cole Freeman (Sr.)
Feb 4th-SS Kramer Robertson (Sr.)
Feb 5th-3B Josh Smith (Fr.)
Feb 6th-OF Beau Jordan (Jr.) Antoine Duplantis (So.) Greg Deichmann (Jr.)
Feb 7th-DH Bryce Jordan (Jr.)**Out for season**
Feb 8th-SP Alex Lange (Jr.) Jared Poche (Sr.) Eric Walker (Fr.) Zach Hess (Fr.)
Feb 9th-RP Hunter Newman (Sr.)
Feb 10th- Pro Prospects & SEC predictions

Grade Breakdown
80 Top of the Scale (Think Kris Bryant, USD – 2013 “power”)
70 Well Above Average
60 Above Average
50 Average
40 Below Average
30 Well Below Average
20 Bottom of the Scale (Think Matt Gaudet, LSU - 2010 “speed”)
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:16 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am to


CATCHER

1) Mike Papierski Jr. 6’3 225lbs (2)*
2) Nick Coomes Jr. 5’11 196lbs (13)
3) Jordan Romero Sr. 6’2 213lbs (28)
4) Rankin Woley Fr. 6’0 215lbs (22)

The catching position while not as deep as in recent years will show veteran depth behind what looks to be Michael Papierski, Nick Coomes, Jordan Romero, and Rankin Woley in that order.

Michael Papierski, the highest drafted catcher of his high school class to attend college, has already shown consistency behind the plate at the collegiate level along with a superb arm in which he’s continued to refine throughout the first two years on campus. One of the physical attributes MLB organizations love about Michael is his giant frame in which he’s been able to add 25lbs over the past two seasons and yet still looks like he’ll be able to add more without hindering his game. Diving straight into it, the downfall Papierski has faced has been hitting with consistency against SEC pitching. Now while Papierski’s bat was a bit raw coming out of high school I admit inaccurately projected a big spike in his offensive game a season ago, it just didn’t come to fruition. What Papierski is excellent at is reading pitches which is not shocking given his position, a season ago he drew a walk approximately every 7.2 at bats only behind Chris Reid at 6.2 at bats respectively. Between tweaking his left and right handed approaches and focusing solely on hitting from the right side during May of last year it became evident he wasn’t comfortable and tried simplifying his approach mid-season. While this approach gives him more control over the bat and thus a more level swing through the zone he still says he hits for more power from the left side of the plate. At the same time I’m hearing he has not completely given up hitting from the left side, I do have full confidence Gibbs a switch hitter himself will be able to make any adjustments necessary and this won't be a week on week off thing. Make no mistake, Michael is the best catcher on this team and besides (Michael Rivera-Florida & Jason Delay-Vanderbilt) has the best defensive tools in the southeastern conference. It’s not a surprise and it shouldn’t be to those that have watched the games closely, you’ll notice the pitchers tend to be far more comfortable when Papierski is behind the plate. Well above average defensive catchers are worth their weight in gold for what they strictly do on defense, the way they manage the infield, and the way they hold athletic base stealing teams in check for the most part. As Papierski enters his third season at LSU expect him to get more comfortable hitting as all players do, he does have great upper body strength. LSU doesn’t need Papierski to be an ALL-SEC performer at the plate but if he can figure it out he’ll make the lineup that much stronger at the back end of the lineup. If I had to guess he’ll sit around 6-8 in the order. Speed is slightly below average and Papierski is not an aggressive baserunner.

Nick Coomes the top JUCO transfer of the incoming class has been taking reps at catcher this spring in what looks to be the grooming for Nick to slide in behind Papierski given Jordan Romero’s nagging shoulder injury which is not ready for live ball. While Nick played primarily 3B at LSU-Eunice in 2016 he can realistically find himself at either C, DH, 3B, or 1B given the situation and where he’s needed. What I like about Coomes is his patient approach at the plate, doesn’t get fooled often and like fellow high school teammate Jordan Romero has great lower body strength with plus power and the ability to pull balls into the gaps and out of the park on mistake pitches. Coomes will bring a power bat with gap to gap power, he actually runs well for his stature and isn't a liability on the base paths. He’ll help relieve Papierski on consecutive days but don’t be surprised at all if he makes his way into the lineup at DH.

Jordan Romero who I have backing up Papierski and Coomes honestly will be more of a valuable asset at DH given his shoulder injury. Due to the nature of shoulder injuries you can’t rush or expedite recovery and in my opinion it’s going to be a week to week prognosis…all this being said I think he’ll continue to be listed on the catching depth chart due to the nature of the position and he’s still able to catch bullpen. Even with the setback Jordan Romero is one of LSU’s best power threats behind Greg Deichmann and has always been one of the best fastball hitters on the team. Look for Romero to see time at C of DH this season with an extremely dark horse pick of playing 1B if he is absolutely needed.

Rankin Woley is an extremely well built and strong freshman out of Georgia who will need a season behind the veteran’s before breaking out of his shell. This is a kid who’s played all over the diamond and actually can move for his frame. Mainieri will be able to plug and play him when need be, I see him at a corner infield spot or catcher down the road.

My take: The catching position isn’t what the team will be built around but does retain two veterans who bring two entirely different approaches both behind the plate and in the box. With Papierski you’re getting a phenomenal defensive catcher who will limit other teams on the base paths while Coomes and Romero when hot fit in as the ideal power threat to protect Greg Deichmann in the 5 hole when the Tigers enter SEC pitching.

Michael Papierski

Power------55
Hitting------55
Speed------45
Fielding----65
Arm---------70

FINAL GRADE: 60
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 8:00 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am to


FIRST BASE

1) Jake Slaughter Fr. 6’2 197lbs (5)*
2) Chris Reid So. 5’9 187lbs (17)
3) Nick Coomes Jr. 5’11 196lbs (13)
4) Bryce Adams Sr. 6’4 203lbs (44)

First base will be one of the few unknowns heading into spring ball, let me preface that while Mainieri and Gibbs have their guy in Jake Slaughter who’s currently in line to start opening night the completion behind him will continue well after first pitch. Chris Reid and Nick Coomes make sense at this spot given their durability and won’t compromise anything defensively. Even with Bryce Adams getting a majority of his reps in left field to start the year I don’t think he’ll beat out Beau Jordan, Breaux, or Watson and because of this I’m also tabbing him as a backup for this position given the possible need later in the season.

Jake Slaughter, a 36th round draft choice of the Chicago Cubs, steps onto campus as one of the two heralded freshmen position players that are projected to start right away for the 2017 LSU Tigers. Since Paul Mainieri has become the head coach at LSU he’s had a total of three incoming freshmen play in a summer collegiate league…one being Kevin Gausman…the other being fellow freshman Josh Smith, certainly expectations are sky high and will continue to be sky high for this young man.. Jake Slaughter is a natural short stop on the baseball diamond and was a wide receiver on the football field, being the exceptional athlete he is and with Robertson and Freeman locking down the middle of the infield he’ll simply shift over to first base for the time being. You’ll notice ever since 2011-2012 Mainieri has exclusively recruited advanced athletes with an emphasis on defense, all four projected infielders opening day played short stop at one point for their respective high schools. What I like most about Slaughter taking over at 1B is the large frame he carries along with the added athleticism, it can’t be reiterated enough the advantages of having a big target at the position and he fits the bill. In the batters box Jake tends to hold the bat close behind his head with a slightly open stance from the right side where he shows great balance. The nature of his swing creates more lift on the ball but it can also set himself up for swings and misses at times on off-speed down and out of the zone. Out of the entire freshman class I strongly believe Slaughter has the most upside that will carry into his junior season where he has the potential to be an All-American type player. As Jake continues to fill out and get stronger under the conditioning program his power may eventually be a plus plus tool. Slaughter has above average speed for his size where he’ll be a threat to steal at times with his longs strides and football instincts. Ideally to start the season Mainieri will plug him into the 6 or 7 hole allowing Slaughter to get his feet wet as he inherits a new position and gets more reps in the batter’s box.

Chris Reid is going to be the utility man this season and will be one of first guys off the bench. What I like about Chris is the ability to bounce between 3B, 2B, and 1B although do to his makeup he’s better suited for the right side of the infield long term. At the plate Reid’s an extremely smart player who plays to his strengths disguising his lack of power at the plate, the ability he has to work counts and stay patient paid dividends as he was tied for 3rd on the team in on base percentage a season ago. In early March of 2016 it was Chris’s ability to stop the bleeding at 3B that brought stability to the infield thus allowing Robertson and Freeman to slide into their natural positions. Mainieri hasn't forgotten about this and he has a knack for giving opportunities to players he can trust, Reid will get major at bats even if it's not in a starting role.

Nick Coomes is another guy that would fit into any of the C, DH, 1B, or 3B spots because of his versatility and the need to get his bat in the lineup. Don’t sleep on Coomes I think he’ll work his way in somewhere as long as he keeps mashing the ball this spring with power that will won't leave the coaches with a choice.

Bryce Adams is a player I never know what to expect from a game to game basis. At 6’4 he has the prototypical body of a first baseman nevertheless he didn’t seem to be comfortable at all when called upon. Due to the nature of the sport and the repetition needed it’s hard for someone to be a platoon offensive player and put up any kind of gaudy stats. Adam’s strength is power and I do think he will be used in a platoon role at the very least from the right side of the plate in late game situations. While Adam’s may not start don’t be surprised to see him get at bats to at least give the coaches something to look at before conference.

My take: If Jake Slaughter wins the job full time it’ll be well deserved and it's going to sling shot him to move to the left side of the infield for 2018. While Jake will make mistakes early on in February/March and look like any other ordinary freshman the talent is there and the upside much higher than his counterparts. With his frame and room to fill out I do think Slaughter is going to evolve into a premium 5 tool player by his junior season where he’ll anchor the heart of the order behind Josh Smith. As hard as it is I’m trying to limit my expectations for now…with that said expect a very athletic first baseman in the field with a 0.280-0.290 hitter who will show pop towards the middle to back end of the order.

Jake Slaughter

Power------60
Hitting------50
Speed------60
Fielding----55
Arm---------55

FINAL GRADE: 55
This post was edited on 2/2/17 at 3:27 pm
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am to


SECOND BASE

1) Cole Freeman Sr. 5’9 174lbs (8)*
2) Chris Reid So. 5’9 187lbs (17)
3) Mason Templet Fr. 6’1 205lbs (23)

The strength of the team will be the middle infield and that starts with Cole Freeman who will take the #8 jersey from Jake Fraley and become one of the team captains. With a plethora of incoming talent at the corner infield positions I’m in a way foreshadowing the move of Chris Reid towards the right side of the infield assuming everything is peachy with respect to 3B. Mason Templet, another one of the extremely talented freshmen will push for playing time.

Cole Freeman has continued to exceed expectations at every level, he doesn’t have a big frame, he doesn’t hit for power and yet he lead LSU in hitting last season (0.329) as well as winning the Cape Cod League batting title last summer (0.374), that hitting clip in the wooden bat summer league is not an easy thing to do by any means. I cannot stress how big a victory it was persuading Freeman, the 18th round draft pick of the Los Angeles Dodgers, to return to campus. While he loses all negotiating leverage this summer for the 2017 MLB draft Mainieri said it didn’t take any convincing given how badly this core nucleus of players want to win a title. So what makes Freeman such a difficult out in the lineup? As a natural slap hitter Cole’s approach like many others given his physical stature is primarily to spray the ball up the middle and between the gaps. With this approach it sacrifices power tremendously but allows Cole more control where he’s less likely to pop out or strikeout on average. As arguably the best bunter on the team Freeman recognizes opportunities given and takes anything to reach base; from there he's able to absolutely wreak havoc on the base paths. Freeman is not the fastest player on the team but his tremendous instincts along with great footwork should allow him to take the role from now departed Jake Fraley as the leader in stolen bases. Even with Cole serving most of his time in the 9 hole a season ago as Mainieri typically likes a strong hitter to "turn the lineup over" this year he'll move to the top of the order. The way this lineup is built it's no surprise he fits in as that perfect 1 or 2 hole hitter. As long as his batting average, on base percentage, and stolen bases are in the top 1/3 of the starting nine then Freeman will be doing everything he’s asked to do offensively. Freeman’s arm is above average where he can consistently makes throws falling away from the bag if he needs to. On defensive his first instincts are good, his glove is advanced, and he makes the routine plays with minimal effort. Besides Kramer I don’t think anyone’s draft stock on this team has soared more than Cole Freeman in the past 18 months; with another impressive year in the SEC I think an MLB team will grab him in the top 12 rounds as easy sign to quickly place in their farm system.

Chris Reid as with first base will back up second, this is where I think Chris naturally fits on the infield given his lack of range defensively.

Mason Templet another heralded freshman will be a fantastic collegiate hitter one day but it may have to wait. Mason’s a corner infielder by trade but may end up as the Tigers 1B in a year or two as Slaughter moves to the left side of the infield. Templet, a natural pull hitter from the left side of the plate, has a very fluid swing and watching him take batting practice is always a treat. Mason’s still rehabbing a shoulder injury from high school football so early in his career if he’s to make an impact with this already deep team it’ll be DH.

My take: With Freeman you’re getting one of the most versatile athletes in the Southeastern Conference who can change the nature of the game in so many ways with his bat, speed on the base paths, as well as a flashy glove. Cole Freeman and Kramer Robertson a year ago turned into quite the tandem up the middle and they’ll become the vocal leaders on the infield. Because I think Freeman has found his natural position he'll continue to thrive as one of the most well rounded players in LSU's lineup and compete for 1st or 2nd team ALL-SEC honors.

Cole Freeman

Power------40
Hitting------60
Speed------70
Fielding----65
Arm---------60

FINAL GRADE: 65


This post was edited on 2/3/17 at 9:09 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:41 am to


SHORTSTOP

1) Kramer Robertson Sr. 5’10 168lbs (3)*
2) Josh Smith Fr. 5’10 178lbs (4)
3) Cole Freeman Sr. 5’9 174lbs (8)

Spearheading the middle of the infield alongside Cole Freeman will be Kramer Robertson who returns to LSU after earning First-Team ALL-SEC honors a season ago along with turning down the chance to sign a MLB contract with the Cleveland Indians who took him the 32nd round. The shortstop position isn’t up for competition heading into the spring, but for insurance reasons Josh Smith or Cole Freeman could slide in here without skipping a beat.

Kramer Robertson has taken his lumps in college, had his fair share of offensive struggles during 2014-2015, was a topic of potentially transferring for more playing time, contemplated an offer from the Cleveland Indians, and yet finds himself as potentially the most important piece on this team. There is no question Kramer is the vocal leader in the locker room and when LSU first takes the field and it’s going to be his energy they feed off of. Kramer’s game is eerily similar to that of Cole Freeman and you’ll see plays they make daily that seem to mirror the other. What I’m most excited in regards to Robertson’s offense is the patience he’s steadily developing in the box, he's keeping his hands closer to his body and driving the ball where pitched. I think you’ve seen the game has started to slow down for him and he’s comfortable, he’s taking pitches he wouldn’t in year one and two and because of the compactness of his swing this has yielded great success. Don’t expect a sudden power surge from him, I’m thinking he’ll top out at 4-5 HR’s but he'll contend for the most doubles on the team, I like him anywhere in the 3-5 hole. Like many other players on this year’s team Kramer is tremendously athletic and will be given the green light to steal bags at his discretion where he will be a weapon on the bases. If there is one area I would like to see him improve its aggressiveness on the base paths at times where I think he can steal more bases that what he's shown in the past. It won't ever show up in the box score nevertheless his greatest achievement has been locking down short stop where he's become the quarterback of the defense, become a leader for the freshmen, as well as provide stability in the heart of the order. Due to his frame and lack of power Kramer’s not going to be a top target from any MLB organization this June but you’re aren’t going to find many other collegiate defenders with his arm strength. Kramers greatest tool is arm strength where he'll make accurate throws from anywhere in the infield at anytime with his glove being above average and one of the best in the SEC.

Cole Freeman will be able to slide here if need be as well as Josh Smith without losing much defensively, I'll touch more on Smith tomorrow covering third base.

My take: Shortstop will be a strength for LSU in 2017 and where Robertson goes this team will follow. I'm expecting more of the same production out of Kramer as he looks to be protected in this lineup and get his fair share of hittable pitches which bodes well for this excellent fastball hitter. If indeed Robertson finds himself sandwiched between Freeman and Deichmann in the batting order that will spell trouble for opposing pitchers this spring comparable to 2013 with Bregman-Rhymes-Katz.

Kramer Robertson

Power------45
Hitting------60
Speed------65
Fielding----65
Arm---------70

FINAL GRADE: 65
This post was edited on 2/4/17 at 9:46 am
Posted by Adam4848
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THIRD BASE

1) Josh Smith Fr. 5’10 178lbs (4)*
2) Chris Reid So. 5’9 187lbs (17)
3) Jake Slaughter Fr. 6'2 197lbs (5)
4) Nick Coomes Jr. 5’11 196lbs (13)

Josh Smith, the other heralded freshman, took almost no time in securing an infield position and in specific third base. In 2016 third base had 5 different players start, the highest in the lineup, it's a spot which could use some stability. Behind Josh there's much competition with Chris Reid, Nick Coomes, and even Jake Slaughter at times.

Josh Smith may be the most refined freshman to start in LSU's lineup since Alex Bregman ‘13. Smith a four year starter at Catholic HS in Baton Rouge has excelled at every level of competition he’s faced to date and on ESPN they'll call him “scrappy, a gamer, a grinder”, while it’s true and I hate using these overused phrases it bears merit to this particular situation. A 38th round draft pick of the Detroit Tigers, Josh Smith is the other freshman opposite of Jake Slaughter in the infield who also played and started in the collegiate summer league last July. What’s remarkable is the manner Smith struggled in his first 3-4 games, nothing surprising seeing freshman become introduced to the next echelon of competition. What surprised me in Smith’s case was how quick and effective Josh made adjustments and in turn found his comfort zone then propelling him to lead his team in batting average and stolen bases. Josh is another line drive approach hitter from the left side of the plate who has a very fluid/compact swing allowing him to stay back on the ball. Josh at times can tend to get off balance with his front toe tap but this can be easily be fixed. Smith doesn’t possess above average power to date, he stays mostly between power alleys when he makes solid contact which is everything Mainieri is looking for at this point in his career. In the batting order he's been all over the place getting work at the leadoff spot as well as the 6-7 hole and also could be a plug and play guy at 9 hole which Freeman was so ever dangerous a year ago and gave opposing team fits at the end of the order. Speed is above average, he has great footwork which makes up for lack of straight line speed and that will allow him to take 10-15 stolen bases this spring if I had to put a number on it. Josh is a natural shortstop who has an above average glove at the collegiate ranks and an outstanding arm which will not limit him this year, he’ll stick to 3B/SS his entire career while at LSU. No doubt his glove and comfort for the position is what landed him the job but don't sleep on his bat this year I'm projecting him sitting around 0.300 all year.

Chris Reid who I have backing up both first, second, and third base will do just that on opening night. A starter mid-way through the 2016 season Chris did a remarkable job steadying the hot corner and providing stability once the Trey Dawson experiment became apparent it was a temporary one. Chris doesn’t have any particular tool that’s above average but ever elite team that makes it to Omaha needs a smart and unselfish player who can step into play any given night and not lose productively. Reid fits this bill for me and he will get his fair share of at bats and even platoon with his left handed bat which is valuable in late game situations.

Jake Slaughter who has been taking reps at 3B is also a candidate for this position if the infield ever gets a shuffle.

Nick Coomes who lead LSU-Euince at 3B a season ago can also play catcher and is fighting for the DH spot. Coomes fastest way to the field will be DH which will be a logjam position and of great competition, still he's a veteran who's taken reps at the position. Nick has a great bat with plus power that will be pushing every chance he gets to find a starting gig.

My take: Third base will start to show some balance this year with Smith's play. As much expectation as Josh has surrounding him he's one of the calmest and collected young men on that diamond day in and day out. I look at where he can fit in the lineup...Mainieri can go so many ways with this by although I think to start he'll keep him towards the back end of the order. With Smith you're playing a short stop at the hot corner who will be a pesky out in the order every time he steps up to the plate.

Josh Smith

Power------45
Hitting------55
Speed------60
Fielding----60
Arm---------60

FINAL GRADE: 55
This post was edited on 2/5/17 at 11:03 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:42 am to

Left Field - Beau Jordan


Center Field - Antoine Duplantis


Right Field - Greg Deichmann

OUTFIELD

Left Field
1) Beau Jordan Jr. 5'9 202lbs (24)*
2) Brennan Breaux So. 6'0 180lbs (6)

Center Field

1) Antoine Duplantis So. 5'11 179lbs (20)*
2) Zach Watson Fr. 6'0 166lbs (9)

Right Field

1) Greg Deichmann Jr. 6'2 209lbs (7)*
2) Bryce Adams Sr. 6'4 203lbs (44)

The outfield a season ago was as consistent as you can ask for at the collegiate level. Between Beau Jordan, Jake Fraley, and Antoine Duplantis there were 3 errors combined the entire season with Fraley and Duplantis starting all 66 games in center and right field respectively, Jordan started 62 games in left. While the outfield loses its best player from a year ago in Jake Fraley to the Tampa Bay Rays in round 2 of the MLB draft it acquires another exceptional star athlete in Greg Deichmann. The headline this spring is the competition in left field with Beau Jordan and Brennan Breaux. I’ll go over each position in the outfield individually.

Left Field: Besides the 3rd starter in the rotation this is the hottest competition of the spring. Beau Jordan and Brennan Breaux continue to compete for the start opening night, each player’s makeup and tools entirely different than the other. Beau Jordan the returning starter in left is your stocky, well built, hits for average with occasional pop left fielder. Jordan’s power is a tad higher than average where he could sit around the 6-7 HR mark given a full season. While Beau struggled offensively down the stretch a last May he was one of LSU's hottest hitters in the heart of the order who provided the team with some big time plays over the course of the SEC schedule. Beau is more of a pull hitter, great great lower body strength with the ability to jump all over mistake pitches. Speed is a tad higher than average for his frame, he’s the more athletic of the Jordan twins (please don’t tell Bryce this). In the field Beau has continued to make superb plays you sit back and question how he’s even physically able to get to, arm is average for a left fielder. You're getting a reliable left fielder in Jordan with occasional power.

Brennan Breaux is your prototypical left fielder. Quick footed outfielder who will hit for average from the left side and has exceptional speed. Breaux has filled out over the course of a year adding 10lbs and doesn’t look to be losing his first jump or speed on the base paths which is great. Breaux will not hit for power he just doesn’t have it, what’s going to be his calling card is if Mainieri trusts him to hit for average and get on base with consistency. If Breaux is to win this position he’ll be the 9 hole hitter to turn over the lineup ala Cole Freeman a season ago. On the base paths Brennan has great straight line speed and served the team a year ago as the main pinch runner, he’s another one of those above average athletes on this team that will get a green light more times than not at his discretion. Breaux has an above average glove, he gets to balls with ease in left field and has an above average arm.

Beau Jordan

Power------55
Hitting------50
Speed------55
Fielding----55
Arm---------50

Center Field: Antoine Duplantis will simply shift over to center field and fill the void left by Jake Fraley's departure. Let me preface by saying Duplantis is the best outfielder on this team and LSU will once again be spoiled by superb play at the position in the upcoming season. Originating from a track family Antoine is much of the same, his footwork is phenomenal he has the ability to regain tracking on balls he initially misreads off the bat. Antoine is one of the more poised hitters at the plate, he likes to make the pitcher work where he drew the second highest walk total only behind now departed Jake Fraley. His slap hitting approach mimics Mark Laird where he rarely pulls the ball, this approach greatly cuts down on strikeouts and bad plate appearances as seen by his superb walk to strikeout ratio. Duplantis has arguably the best straight line speed from home to first outside of Zach Watson where he will be counted on to do more on the base paths. He’s a guy I legitimately think can steal 20-25 bases during a full season with room for more. Glove is one of the best on the team, his job is to track down fly balls and cut off balls in the gaps and he does this, his arm needs to continue to get stronger as its slightly below average for the position.

Zach Watson who will be backing up Duplantis in centerfield is an exceptional speedster who will one day become another one of LSU’s long line of superb defensive outfielders. Even though I don’t think Watson cracks the lineup this year expect to see Zach plugged in as a pinch runner this year in late game situations.

Antoine Duplantis

Power------40
Hitting------60
Speed------75
Fielding----65
Arm---------45

Right Field: Greg Deichmann has right field locked down and that's great news for this lineup. Serving as the first basemen in 2016 it was evident Mainieri couldn't sit a couple of these advanced freshmen bats and so the shuffle began. As a short stop in high school and infielder in college Greg is another all around built player who made a smooth transition to right where he looks to be getting more comfortable with every practice. With 11 HR's in 2016 Greg not only returns as LSU's leader in home runs but may be the premier power bat in the SEC outside of Jeren Kendall at Vanderbilt. His power is a plus plus tool at the college level and he will without a doubt be centered somewhere in the heart of the order. What MLB teams need to see is Deichmann hit for average and with consistency, if Greg is protected in the order he'll get great opportunities to do just that. Deichmann in this past year has started filling out where he's added 20lbs, it'll lend him more raw power in the box and he's been tediously adding arm strength. Greg still has well above average speed for his build although with this added bulk he's starting to transition himself from a speedy infielder to corner outfielder at the pro level with this his time from home to first won't be as crisp as it once was. Defensively Greg looks great out in right where he's fitting to his position with great pose. Out of the entire outfield Deichmann's is the best where it's above average, at the position this is necessary for when balls need to be relayed to third base.

Bryce Adam's will serve as the backup to LF and RF along with 1B. As one of the largest players on the team it's no surprise his greatest tool is power. I like Bryce this year because he adds much need depth to the outfield as well as a possible pinch hitter who lends power to all fields.

Greg Deichmann

Power------70
Hitting------60
Speed------65
Fielding----55
Arm---------60

My take: Left field is still a competition and could be for quite some time, as the returning starter I'm projecting Beau Jordan in left field for now although it's becoming obvious both will get their fair share in the first three weeks of non conference play. Jordan and Breaux are almost polar opposites in the way they play so Mainieri/Gibbs will have options moving forward in the way they want to balance the lineup. The outfield as a group looks to be a real strength of this team with each player bringing something different to the table. The biggest name of the group is Greg Deichmann who's a legitimate 5 tool player and with another productive season at the plate may be taken in the top 3-4 rounds of this years draft.

FINAL GRADE: 65
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:56 am
Posted by Adam4848
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DESIGNATED HITTER

1) Bryce Jordan Jr. 5'9 206lbs (25)*
2) Nick Coomes Jr. 5'11 196lbs (13)
3) Mason Templet Fr. 6'1 205lbs (23)
4) Jordan Romero Sr. 6'2 213lbs (28)

During preseason the designated hitter in most cases is the last position to be set. Much is the same this spring, currently Bryce Jordan holds the lead at winning the starting job but this will be another position of consistent competition and frankly it needs to be given LSU's depth. Glaring over the lineup card guys such as Nick Coomes, Mason Templet, and Jordan Romero all bring different levels up upside and would be an ideal fit.

Bryce Jordan is not a new face here and was the primary starter at DH making 39 starts at the position a year ago. As a first year starter Bryce made great strides anchoring the team mainly shuffling around the 5-7 hole. Jordan's approach at the plate is simple, standing as close to the plate as the umpire permits Bryce's goal is to cut off the inside of the plate or get hit. Mentally for a young pitcher with lack of command this plays into Jordan's advantage as he's essentially cutting off the inside of the plate where he can use his hands to extend to the outer half. In 2016 he lead the SEC in hit by pitches with 23, had the third higest total of HR's on the team, and his on base perctange was 0.417, the second highest on the team. Right now Bryce's speed is average at best, nothing unusual for the position and won't be a liability on the base paths however won't be a steal threat. Make no mistake Bryce is the ultimate team player who will literally put his body on the line every at bat to get on base. Every great team needs a locker room warrior but if Bryce is to secure this job for the long term it's going to take more gap to gap power where Mainieri feels confident inserting him at the 5 or 6 hole without sacrificing anything at the plate.

Nick Coomes another guy I've touched on briefly looks to be the primary backup catcher with one week left before opening day. While Mainieri intends on keeping him there and as well he should for depth it wouldn't deter Nick from taking over the DH spot if needed on a game by game basis. What I like about Coomes bat is the gap to gap power and the patient approach at the plate, in the field he's a very versatile guy who can play multiple positions. Even with Mainieri's stress on speed and athleticism in field this lineup could use another bat that can protect Deichmann and keep his numbers up respectively. There is always a JUCO bat that makes an impact and right now my gut feeling is it's going to be Coomes. Nick brings slightly above average speed on the base paths and moves well for his stature.

Mason Templet is the third musketeer of this phenomenal freshman infield class which includes Slaughter and Smith. Hitting from the left side with pull side power Mason will get playing time during the midweek games to see his worth, from there he'll get bigger and better opportunities. Mainieri has been quoted comparing Mason's swing to that of former star Blake Dean, however I'm attempting to temper one's expectation for the upcoming season and the reality of this log jammed depth chart. Templet will be a multi year starter at LSU before he leaves, if nothing else he's providing much needed and valuable depth on the infield and DH as he waits his turn.

Jordan Romero is the lost son on the team with a touch of bad luck. In March of 2016 Jordan's bat carried LSU, he was the spark that got LSU going after a miserable opening weekend in conference play. In limited plate appearances Romero was second on the team in homerun's and had game winning hits, it looked as if Papierski lost his spot for good. Then the scouting reports came, Jordan who was an exceptional fastball hitter primarily struggled with off speed down in the zone, teams began to exclusively pitch backwards gong offspeed early and often. Romero started routinely finding himself in 0-1 and 0-2 counts, from there he was guessing every pitch, the batting average began to drop and so did his confidence. He never regained it during the season and the struggles continued into the Cape Cod League before tweaking his shoulder. Currently Romero can throw a ball but not at 100% efficiency and definitely not at game speed. All this aside Jordan is still able to hit and I think he's a legitimate candidate at DH. Jordan will get his reps and from there the ball is in his court on how much playing time the coaches are willing to use him.

My take: At first glance the position supplies a returning starter in Bryce Jordan as well as a couple veteran bodies that are capable of supplying power and the ability to hit for average. I think the DH spot in the order will compliment the already well stocked athleticism and speed on the paths and the winner will be the one who can be counted on to drive guys in day in an day out. Expect a number of different guys to rotate in and out during February as the DH spot starts to sort itself out before the Houston Classic.

Bryce Jordan

Power------60
Hitting------50
Speed------45
Fielding----50
Arm---------50

FINAL GRADE: 50
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Adam4848
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Alex Lange - RHP



Jared Poche - LHP



Eric Walker - RHP



Zach Hess - RHP

STARTING PITCHING

Alex Lange Jr. 6'3 199lbs (35)*
Jared Poche Sr. 6'1 217lbs (16)*
Eric Walker Fr. 6'0 172lbs (10)*
Zach Hess Fr. 6'6 216lbs (38)*

LSU's starting rotation will be extremely top heavy with two steadfast veteran's in Alex Lange and Jared Poche, from there two talented but unproven freshmen in Eric Walker and Zach Hess should fight for the #3 and #4 spot respectively.

Alex Lange returns for his third and likely final season in an LSU uniform. As a part of the “fab four” Lange stepped foot onto campus overshadowed by his counterparts. Mac Marshall, Jake Latz, Jake Godfrey all drafted out of high school, all with electric arms, while Marshall was drafted in the 4th round by the Giants a year removed from JUCO both Latz and Godfrey have dealt with their respective struggles while Lange has thrived. Viewed as a raw power arm with projectability that needed to be refined Alex started perfecting and tweaking his curveball during fall ball of 2014. Alex is the definition of a power pitcher, his fastball will normally sit 93-94mph and by the end of the regular season he has the ability to peak at 96mph. The out pitch is a 12-6 power curve ball which is a plus plus pitch at the college level and what many call absolutely devastating. Due to Alex Lange's frame and arm slot his fastball typically isn't seen till the moment it leaves his hand, what sets him apart from many other pitchers is the way he can recreate the almost exact same arm slot with the power curve. From that point the batter is primarily guessing and with a power fastball working downhill he has the ability to blow it by most hitters. His change up is average to slightly above average which he'll primarily pitch to contact to keep a hitter off balance. One thing to watch out for and will be huge for Alex is limiting his walks and getting ahead of counts, his walk total last year was way too high. Lange who will start the season as the Tigers Friday night starter finds himself in a favorable spot as it’s not often in college a 1-2 duo start alongside each other for three consective years. Alex Lange is currently projected as a mid to lower first round draft pick in the 2017 MLB draft.

So much can be said about Jared Poche. A three year starter for the Tigers and the only pitcher in LSU history to win 9 games in his first three seasons he's only 11 wins shy of tieing Scott Schultz at 38 wins for the most all time at LSU. Last June Jared was ready to start his professional career as a projected top 10 round pick...however he ended up sliding to round 14 where the San Diego Padres grabbed him. Truth be told if the offer was right he would have taken it so much so that Mainieri didn't expect him back, but now Alan Dunn keeps a 3 year starter and a much needed left handed arm in the Saturday spot. Jared immediately becomes an important piece for this rotation and his return takes LSU from contending for the SEC Championship to contending for the National Championship. Jared will primarily pitch to contact where his fastball sits 89-91mph on most occasion, with a slightly above average changeup, and above average curveball which has been the one pitch he's most improved since 2013. As LSU's workhorse nothing specifically will ever wow you watching Poche, his bread and butter is pounding the zone to keep hitters off balance, at the college level he's mastered that art and his curve ball is starting to become an out pitch which bolds well for an increase in strikeouts. Look for Poche to remain comfortable in the Saturday spot where he's an above average #2 starter that with a little luck should come close to breaking LSU's win mark. With another solid year Poche could go anywhere from rounds 1-15 where a team would sign him quick being a senior.

Eric Walker much like Jared Poche doesn't have a wow factor. The 6'0 right handed pitcher works low on the mound and absolutely pounds the zone with relentlessness. He's great a mixing pitches and working fast where he throws an average fastball 88-90mph with downward life, an average curve ball, and what I find a great off speed changeup that may be average to above average. Walker is not a strikeout pitcher and won't be his freshman season, he keeps the ball low in the zone at all times which is critical to inducing ground balls. At the #3 starter LSU doesn't necessarily need an electric arm but rather a dependable arm that will provide a quality start more times than not. Eric who was a former quarterback at the 6A level in Texas continues to show composure on the mound during spring scrimmages where he's not falling behind counts, I've been very impressed with the way he's turned over the lineups as of recent.

Zach Hess was this freshmen classes highest draft risk and he has the potential to become a Friday night starter for 2018. At 6’6 with a wiry frame and unique leg kick Hess has a 92-93mph fastball that he throws from a three quarters slot, because of this his fastball has natural late movement. His best off speed is a power slider which can create swings and misses. Curve ball is average and is something that he'll need to exclusively work through with Dunn on becoming another out pitch. The key for Zach like many pitchers his age is going to be settling down at the start of games and finding his mechanics. When Zach can control his fastball and slider effectively he shows more potential and a higher ceiling that that of Eric Walker but for now it makes sense to rotate him between midweek starts and the #3 spot to see how he'll react.

Alex Lange

Arm Strength---------70
Movement-------------70
Stamina----------------70
Control-----------------50

Jared Poche

Arm Strength---------55
Movement-------------65
Stamina----------------60
Control-----------------60

Eric Walker

Arm Strength---------50
Movement-------------55
Stamina----------------50
Control-----------------65

Zach Hess

Arm Strength---------65
Movement-------------60
Stamina----------------50
Control-----------------40


FINAL GRADE: 70

My take: Jared Poche in 2017 may be what Louis Coleman was in 2009 to the eventual national champion team. Alex Lange and Jared Poche form arguably the best 1-2 punch in the nation, this unit will be a strength of the team. It's also going to be vital to incorporate a #3 and #4 starter this season and by all means Mainieri is set on accomplishing this. For now as long as one of Walker/Hess steps up and provides major innings the Tigers will be primed to make a run at the SEC Title. Also watch out for guys such as Todd Peterson, Caleb Gilbert, and Cole McKay as possible replacement starters.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 8:02 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:42 am to


Caleb Gilbert - RHP



Doug Norman - RHP



Russell Reynolds - RHP



Austin Bain - RHP



Todd Peterson - RHP



Hunter Kiel - RHP



Hunter Newman - RHP

RELIEF PITCHING

Middle Relief
Caleb Gilbert So. 6'2 179lbs (41)
Doug Norman Jr. 6'3 210lbs (21)
Austin Bain Jr. 6'1 188lbs (18)
Todd Peterson Fr. 6'5 224lbs (43)
Cole McKay So. 6'5 219lbs (33)
Will Reese Fr. 6'4 190lbs (38)
Nick Bush Fr. 6'1 193lbs (29)
Blair Frederick Fr. 6'0 193lbs (46)
Matthew Beck Fr. 6'7 228lbs (27)
Collin Strall Sr. 5'10 172lbs (30)


Setup Relief
Russell Reynolds Sr. 6'2 199lbs (45)
Hunter Kiel Jr. 6'3 221lbs (40)

Closer
Hunter Newman Sr. 6'3 196lbs (55)

*Alden Cartwright Sr. 6'0 192lbs (32) Out for Season*

First glance, the bullpen shows great depth with a number of arms returning that have thrived in Alan Dunn's program. Because of the great number of arms I'm not going to go into great great depth on each but rather highlight what each player does well and how they may fit into the bullpen this upcoming year.

Caleb Gilbert is going to be the wildcard here and I mean that in a good way. Gilbert as a true freshman a season ago was an arm that greatly impressed Mainieri, enough so he started the season at closer and while that didn't last Caleb was the fourth most used reliever where he showed flashes of greatness including the SEC tournament against Florida. Caleb is a power arm he sits 91-93mph where he can flash a higher number at times, his slider is a plus pitch and one of the best on the team. He has the ability to get swings and misses but his fallback is control where he seems to want to put himself into jams. IF Caleb eliminates the walks he becomes one of LSU's best bullpen arms and may be the first guy out the pen during SEC games. To expand on that point if Hess or Walker don't command the Sunday spot Gilbert would slide into that role.

Doug Norman will be another valuable arm and is a seasoned veteran who will provide quality innings out of the pen. With a long build Doug's more of a deceptive pitcher during his delivery, he'll sit 90-91mph typically with a slightly above average slider and average curveball. Norman at times was used in spot relief to get 2-3 guys out in a jam and could see that role this year. Doug pitches mostly to contact and when he's hitting his spots it induces ground balls more times than not.

Austin Bain is an inning eater to me. You give him the ball in relief and he gets outs for you no matter if you're down 5 or up by 2. Austin has a great fastball and arm strength that can range anywhere 90-94mph depending on how loose he is. While his production went down last year in terms of innings I think it was the depth LSU had on the mound. Bain will pound the zone with his fastball where he sets guys up with a slightly above average curveball.

Todd Peterson is the best freshman arm of this group and was a top 200 prospect overall in the draft a season ago. With a huge build Peterson sits 92mph consistently where he'll go higher at times, both his curve ball and change up need a bit of work, nothing major. Besides Zach Hess, Todd has the ability to be a front line starter in the SEC one day and I'm interested to see if he becomes the #2 Weekday starter because he'll need innings if he's to be groomed as a rotational pitcher.

Cole McKay is the unknown right now. As the top pitcher of last years recruiting class Cole never found command of any of his pitches with consistency. It was evident Mainieri didn't trust him for more than 1-2 inning stints with the amount of walks. Still in Cole you're getting another big bodied power arm who when in control has the ability to overpower batters. It's vital that Dunn gets McKay on track this year, his arm will be needed and especially for 2018. His ceiling is a Friday-Saturday night starter but right now he's watching pitchers from the bullpen.

Blair Frederick is a guy I'm expecting big things from in the pen during his career. While only 6'0 from the left side he's a true athlete and a guy who mixes and matches his fastball and slider which will get swings and misses. There is a learning curve and because of this he'll start out in midweek games like Mainieri typically does. Look for one of Frederick or Bush to become the situational left hander in middle relief.

Colin Strall is a side winder that will be used in situational pieces to get one to two guys out from the right side as well as midweek games.

Will Reese is a pitcher I'm very intrigued by, he's a guy that matured a tad later than other prospects and LSU got in on him just a season ago. At 6'4 Will sits 89-92mph and has a very projectable body. Look for him to get a lot of innings during the mid week games this year as he gets his feet wet for bigger opportunities in 2018. He has the potential to be a Sunday starter in a year or two.

Nick Bush is a talented left handed pitcher who has battled injuries over the past year. Make no mistake he'll be brought back slowly and will probably end up in situational type appearances. Has an above average slider from the left side and keeps the ball low from the left side, will be an interesting piece in the pen going into postseason.

Matthew Beck right now is a bit of a project and raw in terms of his off speed pitches. He has a very big frame and that's great news for Alan Dunn who will start to add weight to him and add velocity to his fastball, for now still a project.

Russell Reynolds has had many ups and downs during his long career at LSU. As mostly a contact pitcher he's not going to wow you in the box score, but his slider is above average and in most cases he gets bad swings at the plate. I have Russell as a 7-8 inning type guy, it's to early to tell if he's going to be the true setup guy but I like him at the end of the bullpen to bridge the gap to Newman.

Hunter Kiel is the top JUCO recruit who enters campus with an absolute electric arm who throws gas. His fastball is 94-95mph when in live play, it tends to remain flat at times which is where he gets in trouble, when he controls his slider and change up that's when Kiel becomes a devastating presence from the mound and an ideal 1 inning setup type arm.

Hunter Newman is back for his final season at LSU. He began as a starter, hurt his arm, and found himself at the back end of the bullpen which was great luck as he turned into a real sparkplug at the back end of the bullpen. Newman will begin the season as the closer and shows a real poise about him at all times. Newman does not have the electric arm that others around him posses he's effective because he locates his pitches at all time and can throw an above average 12-6 curve ball at any count. Hitters haven't figured out his off speed pitches with effectiveness and because he's only facing a batter once it's typically all he needs. Newman will be the anchor to the pen and where he goes so will the Tigers during June.
This post was edited on 2/9/17 at 10:33 am
Posted by Adam4848
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 7:42 am to
Caleb Gilbert

Arm Strength---------65
Movement-------------65
Stamina----------------55
Control-----------------45

Doug Norman

Arm Strength--------55
Movement-------------55
Stamina----------------45
Control-----------------40

Russell Reynolds

Arm Strength---------50
Movement-------------55
Stamina----------------45
Control-----------------60

Austin Bain

Arm Strength---------65
Movement-------------60
Stamina----------------55
Control-----------------50

Todd Peterson

Arm Strength---------60
Movement-------------50
Stamina----------------55
Control-----------------50

Hunter Kiel

Arm Strength---------70
Movement-------------55
Stamina----------------45
Control-----------------40

Hunter Newman

Arm Strength---------50
Movement-------------70
Stamina----------------40
Control-----------------60

FINAL GRADE: 70

My take: Mainieri and Dunn have done a good job assembling pieces over the course of the past 2-3 years which is how you build depth in a bullpen. There aren't a ton of wow pieces but there are a few players who have been through the fire and know what it takes to get outs. I rank this unit so highly because of the ability to keep its closer, add 2-3 new exciting pieces, and maintain nearly 60% of the innings thrown from last year.
___________________________________________________

MLB Draft Prospects

2017 Draft Eligible
1) Alex Lange RHP
2) Michael Papierski C
3) Greg Deichmann OF
4) Hunter Kiel RHP
5) Jared Poche LHP
6) Cole Freeman 2B
7) Austin Bain RHP
8) Kramer Robertson 2B
9) Doug Norman RHP
10) Jordan Romero C

2018 Draft Eligible
1) Caleb Gilbert RHP
2) Antoine Duplantis OF
3) Zach Hess (So.) RHP
4) Jake Slaughter (So.) 3B
5) Cole McKay RHP

2019 Draft Eligible
1) Zach Hess RHP
2) Jake Slaughter 3B
3) Todd Peterson RHP
4) Josh Smith SS
5) Will Reese RHP

SEC EAST
1) Florida 20-10
2) South Carolina 19-11
3) Vanderbilt 19-11
4) Kentucky 16-14
5) Georgia 15-15
6) Tennessee 12-18
7) Missouri 9-21

SEC WEST
1) LSU 19-11
2) Texas A&M 18-12
3) Ole Miss 16-14
4) Mississippi St 16-14
5) Auburn 14-16
6) Arkansas 13-17
7) Alabama 10-20

SEC Champion - Florida
SEC Tournament Champion - LSU
This post was edited on 2/10/17 at 8:15 am
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Feb 1st-C


Posted by MadtownTiger
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Thank you sweet baby Jesus. The itch is getting bad, and I have CST this year, no games shall be missed.
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Yes!!!! Looking forward to this as much as NSD!!!! Thanks for your work Adam, I really enjoy this each year.
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Now while Papierski’s bat was a bit raw coming out of high school I admit inaccurately projected a big spike in his offensive game a season ago, it just didn’t come to fruition.


Don't beat yourself up, tad predicted the same thing
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Friggin IN
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I love this thread every year

Good thing we have more familiar faces this time around.
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I like LSU baseball.
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My favorite thread of the year!
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